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Greenbean

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A while back I got hooked on this podcast about murder mysteries, missing people etc. just recently I came across a documentary on netflix about Amy Bradley. She went missing from a cruise ship years ago. Anyway I watched it last night and it was interesting to compare the events compared to how crime junkie covered it years ago.
 

Wiggy

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What were the differences? I watched the docu a few days ago and it irritated me.

I watch a lot of true crime & serial killer docus. I've seen most of the big ones on Netflix. I've yet to watch the new Son of Sam tapes one. Based on the other "tapes" ones on Netlifx (Ted Bundy & Unabomber), I imagine it will be good.

I also watch a couple true crime docu youtube channels. EWU is good, as is Crime A to Z. Eric Alan is one of the best, but he hasn't uploaded in a while. His Murdaugh series was better than the one on Netflix, IMO. (The Netflix one actually used some of his drone footage.)

One thing I will say, though - the more I watch true crime docus, the more I realize law enforcement & the judicial system as a whole are just as responsible for people being victimized as the criminals themselves are.
 

Greenbean

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What were the differences?
I'm not sure if I would say that there were inconsistencies, but the way it was covered was very different and there were some things mentioned on one and not the other and vice versa.

For example, crime junkie said that Amy was super reluctant to go on the cruise because it scared her. No mention of that on the Netflix episode.

I don't recall the crime junkie podcast mentioning that she was a lesbian which is a huge detail, but I might've been busy when they mentioned it.

One other thing that I found interesting was the family paid a shit load of money to a special forces guy that claimed he can put together a crew and go down and recover her for a fee. The family agreed, sold some stuff and paid the guy. Guy went down and said he located her and would need more money because there had been a shootout and a couple of his guys got injured and now the kidnappers wanted ransom. Turned out the guy was a major fraud and went to jail and had to pay he family back. No mention of that on the Netflix episode.

I watched the docu a few days ago and it irritated me.
Why is that?
 

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YUGE crime junkie here.
Last week did a B&E @ the local Moose Lodge & stole 6 kegs of beer & a bunch of expensive beer mirrors & neon signage.

Currently casing a pawnshop with a 30yo coax alarm system(LOL) & no battery backup or emergency call-out.
 

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After reading this thread it appears I may have misunderstood the premise.
 

Wiggy

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I'm not sure if I would say that there were inconsistencies, but the way it was covered was very different and there were some things mentioned on one and not the other and vice versa.

For example, crime junkie said that Amy was super reluctant to go on the cruise because it scared her. No mention of that on the Netflix episode.

I don't recall the crime junkie podcast mentioning that she was a lesbian which is a huge detail, but I might've been busy when they mentioned it.

One other thing that I found interesting was the family paid a shit load of money to a special forces guy that claimed he can put together a crew and go down and recover her for a fee. The family agreed, sold some stuff and paid the guy. Guy went down and said he located her and would need more money because there had been a shootout and a couple of his guys got injured and now the kidnappers wanted ransom. Turned out the guy was a major fraud and went to jail and had to pay he family back. No mention of that on the Netflix episode.



Why is that?
The presentation of Netflix crime docus in general is just hit-or-miss with me. They often bloat them out pretty horribly, making it a 3-4 part series when it really could (should) have been covered in a 90-minute one-off.

And they often spend a bunch of time on shit that you expect to play a key role, only for it to be (at least how they present it) meaningless.

Like they put all this time into the bass player on the boat - yet it went nowhere. They make it seem like the dude is sketchy AF. Yet their direct coverage of him kinda goes nowhere, then ends with two lines on the screen at the end saying the feds cleared him.

They spent a LOT of time talking about her being a lesbian, including interviews with former girlfriends, how she came out, the whole thing of her girlfriend cheating on her, etc. Sure, that's some decent character development, but it ultimately had zilch to do with the story or what happened to her.

Then there was law enforcement. I've seen enough true crime docus to know how often the law enforcement just plain drops the ball (don't investigate thoroughly, don't share resources between depts, have a guilty dude in their possession only to let him go, etc...the Night Stalker docu is a huge example of this). I couldn't tell if law enforcement here was legit hamstrung like they say, or just saving face to cover the fact that they haven't found her, yet.
 

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The presentation of Netflix crime docus in general is just hit-or-miss with me. They often bloat them out pretty horribly, making it a 3-4 part series when it really could (should) have been covered in a 90-minute one-off.

And they often spend a bunch of time on shit that you expect to play a key role, only for it to be (at least how they present it) meaningless.

Like they put all this time into the bass player on the boat - yet it went nowhere. They make it seem like the dude is sketchy AF. Yet their direct coverage of him kinda goes nowhere, then ends with two lines on the screen at the end saying the feds cleared him.

They spent a LOT of time talking about her being a lesbian, including interviews with former girlfriends, how she came out, the whole thing of her girlfriend cheating on her, etc. Sure, that's some decent character development, but it ultimately had zilch to do with the story or what happened to her.

Then there was law enforcement. I've seen enough true crime docus to know how often the law enforcement just plain drops the ball (don't investigate thoroughly, don't share resources between depts, have a guilty dude in their possession only to let him go, etc...the Night Stalker docu is a huge example of this). I couldn't tell if law enforcement here was legit hamstrung like they say, or just saving face to cover the fact that they haven't found her, yet.
So, what do you think happened to her?
 

Wiggy

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So, what do you think happened to her?
I dunno.

Going by the woman in (I think?) Barbados that saw her in the shop bathroom, the scuba diver that says he saw her, the pics of her sent to the family, it sounds like she got sex trafficked.

How she ended up off the boat is anyone's guess. The netflix docu opened that rabbit hole, punched holes in a couple theories, then never went anywhere with it.

I don't think there's any credence to her getting off the boat to score drugs.

Didn't the scuba diver say he saw the bass player with her? I don't remember.

Him having the pics of her in his suitcase was fishy AF. The feds letting clearing him doesn't mean anything considering how many others they've missed.

The docu was weird in that the brother mentioned she told him the bass player kept making a play for her and was creeping her out, then never talked to him (or the family) about that again.

The cruise ship employee that seemed to wanna crush the whole thing off saying she either fell overboard or jumped came off as a complete tool, IMO.
 

Wiggy

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He was a fucking scum bag and had no self awareness of how shitty he came off
I don't think it was a lack of self-awareness as much as it was a case of he just didn't give a shit. He 100% seemed like a guy that took the spot on the docu because he got paid and when the camera wasn't on, he rolled his eyes at it all lamenting, "OMG all this shit *again*..."

He was absolutely a fucking scumbag.
 

Wiggy

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Also check this guy's channel out - his stuff is VERY good quality.

His series about the Murdaughs is better than the one on Netflix, IMO.

 

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Does the True Crime Garage podcast still exist?

Years ago I listened to way more podcasts and was on to those guys pretty early on. It was pretty good and they picked up sponsors pretty quick.
Their thing was basically drinking good beers and talking about a case.

However it quickly went to shit, lol.
One of the guys rapidly become a bitter angry drunken mess. Like, over 6 months ut went from fun background noise to feeling like I was enabling dysfunction. It got to the point where it was just to sad to listen to and you could hear the other guy try to drag him along. I tapped out.
 

Greenbean

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Does the True Crime Garage podcast still exist?

Years ago I listened to way more podcasts and was on to those guys pretty early on. It was pretty good and they picked up sponsors pretty quick.
Their thing was basically drinking good beers and talking about a case.

However it quickly went to shit, lol.
One of the guys rapidly become a bitter angry drunken mess. Like, over 6 months ut went from fun background noise to feeling like I was enabling dysfunction. It got to the point where it was just to sad to listen to and you could hear the other guy try to drag him along. I tapped out.
Holy shit, Ive never heard of that. The one I listen to, among some of the recommendations from the thread and the reason for starting the tread is called crime junkies. It's on a streaming platform but you can go to the website and listen to episodes. Try it out and see what you think. It's a couple broads, each episode is about an hour. The main girl Ashley, does her homework. There is a hint of some woke shit, but I don't think it's unbearable. I think one of the first episodes that I remember listening to was the yogurt shop killings from Austin Texas. That one I looked for but it's pretty far down the list. Here's a link to one that we've all heard of.

INFAMOUS: University of Idaho Murders | Crime Junkie Podcast