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Jam_Handy

I swear I do declare! How did she get back there?
Aug 13, 2024
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They still in business?

I thought HD killed them...
 

vad

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Jun 24, 2022
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I am by no means some expert here. But early on in my life I learned about getting a 1099 working in sales. Im glad I learned that lesson because from then on I always wondered why the W2 exists.

It seems to me rather than eliminate the income tax you instead eliminate the W2. Decouple health care and get rid of the 401k concept, apply all 401k benefits to IRAs (company match, etc). The W2 to me is something that makes sense for a union, government roles, that sort of thing, but not for anyone else.

Employees are now all contractors. You agree to a schedule, pay, time off and HR policies, and away we go. Health care is purchased from anyone who can sell it and the market determines is reliable. Amazon Prime can sell it to me for all I care. Same with your IRA. Your company can still offer, as a benefit to you, a match of funds allocated for your IRA. Your IRA always exists, it never needs to be transferred, you have better control of the funds you select. You set it and forget it with Vanguard for example.

You would see a huge boom in the need for CPA's. More people will want to be come CPAs. I think it would also necessitate moving health care away from its current model and force it to actually be an open market service. I think this probably leads to more transparent and easier to follow tax filing over time.

Everyone is a contractor and automatically functions no different than an LLC. Your company pays you full pay, you go buy your insurance, you allocate some to retirement, you set some aside for taxes, savings, etc. You save work related receipts and expenses. CPA knocks it out in 30 minutes for $180
 

Hauler

Been fallin so long it's like gravitys gone
Feb 3, 2016
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If they eliminated the cap on Social Security and just made it a constant, I wonder how much that would off-set getting rid of all income tax?

For those that don't know - everyone pays the same 6.2% for social security, but it's capped at $176k of earnings. Once you pay a max of $10,918 in social security tax - whether you make exactly $176k/year or $10 million a year - you stop paying into it.

Do away with the cap.
Do away with income tax - or at least increase the threshold of people paying $0.
 

Uncle Tom Doug

Official TMMAC Racist
Jun 24, 2022
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They still in business?

I thought HD killed them...
Yes. They are back and no longer directly associated with the maker of shit bikes, Harley Davidson.

 
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Bushkill Blades

Knife Faggot
Oct 25, 2016
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I love my Hyundai.

But if imported vehicles see price increases due to tariffs, oh fucking well.

I'll buy American instead.

No issue.
 

Jamie999

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Aug 13, 2024
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Except the US doesn't produce anything...if I want a German motorcycle, sportbike, what's the US competition? Zero.

The taxpayer gets the shaft.
Do you understand you're just giving supporting evidence. That's how you bring manufacturing back.
 

Jamie999

Well-Known Member
Aug 13, 2024
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I love my Hyundai.

But if imported vehicles see price increases due to tariffs, oh fucking well.

I'll buy American instead.

No issue.
Imported vehicles already have massive tarrifs on them.

And guess what.. It fucking works. Hyundai and majority of European and Asian vehicle manufacturers who sell into US market manufacture in USA (or Canada and Mexico thanks to NAFTA but this might change).
 

BeardOfKnowledge

The Most Consistent Motherfucker You Know
Jul 22, 2015
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There were no goalposts to begin with lol.

Jesus.
You said the tariffs would be avoided by "buying American". That's the goalpost.

It was pointed out to you that the statement is incorrect. That wasn't very convenient for your argument so you then tried to make it about "buying new is stupid!". So yes, you tried to move the goalposts.

Of course, you apparently don't realize that more expensive new cars means more expensive used cars, either. So attempting to explain why tariffs are bad for citizens but a governments wet dream is probably a waste of my time.
 

sparkuri

Pulse on the finger of The Community
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People perpetuate this whole revenue issue.
Taxes as they've been are unconstitutional, and nothing less than inflation.
Taxing citizens is nothing more than psychological control, particularly obvious as real inflation is commesurate to "tax revenue".
The government is supposed to be voluntary anyway, & Trump didn't take a check as leading by exple.
It's simple.

Our country was founded to be the best system.
So, create a volunteer force to take the best ideas of every country, done.
Back to volunteer governing & criminalize government for profit.
Government & people are supposed to be one, not separate.




View: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1880854417366491452?t=72YDxyOZQ0PZQOutbo4Dng&s=19
 

Bushkill Blades

Knife Faggot
Oct 25, 2016
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You said the tariffs would be avoided by "buying American". That's the goalpost.

It was pointed out to you that the statement is incorrect. That wasn't very convenient for your argument so you then tried to make it about "buying new is stupid!". So yes, you tried to move the goalposts.

Of course, you apparently don't realize that more expensive new cars means more expensive used cars, either. So attempting to explain why tariffs are bad for citizens but a governments wet dream is probably a waste of my time.
Nobody was arguing with you in the first place.

No goalposts were set. At all.

Pipe down. Speak when spoken to.