General As the Kurds vote for a non-binding Independence,Let's go back to 2003.

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Yossarian

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The Kurds have plenty of Christians.

They have shops that sell Christmas decorations (santa clause stuff)

That region is tame, they are westerners stuck in Iraq
I don't think their religion matters. They've been taking care of the land that they've lived on, and proving to be an extremly effective and willing ally. That while the rest of Iraq has fallen apart.
 
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200,000 of them left after the Arab spring. Can you imiagine we kick 200,000 Muslims out of the US, the SJW's would jump off bridges throughout the nation!

Same situation in Iraq, in 2003 when they became "free", first thing they did was getting rid of at least 275,000 Christians.

And once Assad loses power in Syria, you can expect the same there.
Yeah I was watching a documentary on Iraq and Christians said the best time they've ever experienced was under Sadaam.
 
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I don't think their religion matters. They've been taking care of the land that they've lived on, and proving to be an extremly effective and willing ally. That while the rest of Iraq has fallen apart.
As well as Syria.

Different Kurds (politically speaking), but Kurds all the same.
 

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I don't think their religion matters. They've been taking care of the land that they've lived on, and proving to be an extremly effective and willing ally. That while the rest of Iraq has fallen apart.
The Kurds are a very proud people.they don't consider themselves Iraqis. The recent conflict is a chance for them to stand up as a nation and show that.
 
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Let's see what shit this stirs up...hopefully all can be done without bloodshed or conflict.
The Iraqi army can't afford a fight with the Peshmerga with ISIS still occupying a (small) portion of their land.

This will be resolved peacefully, and the Iraqi Kurds will have their country.
 

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The Iraqi army can't afford a fight with the Peshmerga with ISIS still occupying a (small) portion of their land.

This will be resolved peacefully, and the Iraqi Kurds will have their country.
The Iraqi army couldnt afford a fight against the Peshmerga on its own regardless of Isis.
 

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Holy shit
Led to a huge brawl in Turkish parliament, with MPs basically trying to drag him out and execute him on the spot.

“They attempted a lynch on my person because I cited the civilians massacred by the state. They say ‘The security forces don’t massacre’. Is that so? If you had any dignity, you wouldn’t say that, for I am a man whose 34 relatives were massacred by the security forces. How is that for not massacring? The AKP MPs who attempted to lynch me, may I fall even lower than you if I fear you for a minute.” - MP Ferhat Encu

 

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Led to a huge brawl in Turkish parliament, with MPs basically trying to drag him out and execute him on the spot.

“They attempted a lynch on my person because I cited the civilians massacred by the state. They say ‘The security forces don’t massacre’. Is that so? If you had any dignity, you wouldn’t say that, for I am a man whose 34 relatives were massacred by the security forces. How is that for not massacring? The AKP MPs who attempted to lynch me, may I fall even lower than you if I fear you for a minute.” - MP Ferhat Encu

Talking about brass balls.
 
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Led to a huge brawl in Turkish parliament, with MPs basically trying to drag him out and execute him on the spot.

“They attempted a lynch on my person because I cited the civilians massacred by the state. They say ‘The security forces don’t massacre’. Is that so? If you had any dignity, you wouldn’t say that, for I am a man whose 34 relatives were massacred by the security forces. How is that for not massacring? The AKP MPs who attempted to lynch me, may I fall even lower than you if I fear you for a minute.” - MP Ferhat Encu

Ferhat Encu.

He's been held as a political prisoner in Turkey since December of last year.

Eleven of his family members were killed by a Turkish Air Force strike when crossing the border from Iraq on mules, carrying containers of gasoline that they were going to use. They weren't PKK terrorists and the Turkish government admitted its mistake soon after.

The guy has a right to be bitter.
 

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^^^

Gregory Bar Hebraeus' Chronography actual includes an eyewitness account of the coming of Genghis Khan's Mongol Horde. it's a worthwhile read imvho.
It's true.
The fuckin mongols ended up in Irak and siege Baghdad if I recall.
That's crazy but they did it.
 

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200,000 of them left after the Arab spring. Can you imiagine we kick 200,000 Muslims out of the US, the SJW's would jump off bridges throughout the nation!

Same situation in Iraq, in 2003 when they became "free", first thing they did was getting rid of at least 275,000 Christians.

And once Assad loses power in Syria, you can expect the same there.
So so true
 

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That they reached Europe is well documented but what is little spoken of is that they also raided the fucking middle-east
Why do what call it the middle East?

What if that's actually the west?


Whoa
 

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For sharing a link? Don't they want people to visit their site?

I don't think it was R. Bedrosian. It was probably the publisher Gorgias Press. The link worked fine when I posted it. It's a shame, The Chonography is a great read.. Damn it.

I'd say it was the work of the Kurds but they don't possess the technical wherewithal for that.

The Israelis perhaps:)
 

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It's true.
The fuckin mongols ended up in Irak and siege Baghdad if I recall.
That's crazy but they did it.
Crazy thing is they spared the Christians in Iraq, for the most part. The Arabs had allowed them to continue their missions in the far east and by that time the Church Of The East had more members than did the Roman Catholic Church. Millions of adherents spread out from Iraq all the way to China. Harat in Afghanistan was the launching point for the missions to China, Japan and Korea. Much of their literature was in the Old Sogdian language of Sogdiana, not in the customary classical Syriac. There was even one Chinese pope of the Church Of The East, Mar Yahbh-Allaha lll, whose friend, an elderly Mongol-Turk Syriac monk was sent to Rome by Genghis Khan as his emissary to discuss an allegiance between Europe and the Mongol Horde against Islam which Genghis despised. In fact there were several Mongol Turk Assyrian Christian tribes that rode with the Horde and certain Khans had Christian wives.

I would include a link to the very interesting...

THE MONKS OF KUBLAl KHAN
EMPEROR OF CHINA



OR



THE HISTORY OF THE LIFE AND TRAVELS OF RABBAN SAWMA, ENVOY AND PLENIPOTENTIARY OF THE MONGOL KHANS TO THE KINGS OF EUROPE, AND MARKOS WHO AS MAR YAHBH-ALLAHA III BECAME PATRIARCH OF THE NESTORIAN CHURCH IN ASIA



TRANSLATED FROM THE SYRIAC



BY



SIR E. A. WALLIS BUDGE, KT.


M.A., LITT.D. (CAMBRIDGE), M.A., D.LITT. (OXFORD), D.LIT. (DURHAM), F.S.A.



Sometime Keeper of Egyptian and Assyrian Antiquities, British Museum Corresponding Member of the Academy of Sciences Lisbon; and Corresponding Member of the Philosophical Society of America



With 16 plates and 6 illustrations in the text





...but, you know, once bitten twice shy as they say ;)