Burt Watson explains UFC situation

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It was a confrontation with a "person of authority" -- and not with a fighter or camp member -- that led to Burt Watson's abrupt departure from UFC 184 last month in Los Angeles.

Watson, the former UFC event coordinator, explained to Ariel Helwani on Monday's edition of The MMA Hour that he was contacted via phone by a Zuffa authority figure following a travel miscommunication after weigh-ins Feb. 27 and spoken to in a way he found to be disrespectful.

Watson, the glue that held the UFC backstage area together, quit after the conversation and did not attend UFC 184 the following day.

"I was approached and it was not in a proper manner, at least in my opinion," Watson said. "I was questioned about my work, about the way I handled things. That's the way I felt. Quite honestly, I didn't appreciate it. I didn't approve of it."

UFC 184 fighter Mark Munoz missed weight on his first attempt and had to stay at the LA Live Events Center to weigh in again. After the second weigh-in, Munoz was somehow left with no way of getting back to the hotel and he didn't arrive until about an hour later, Watson said. The hotel was only about 10 minutes away from LA Live. Watson said he still isn't sure what happened, because he personally sent transportation to pick him up.

After Munoz returned to the hotel after successfully making weight, Watson greeted him and everything seemed fine. Then Watson got a call from a UFC official, whose name he would not disclose. That conversation, which Watson found offensive, resulted in him calling it quits after 14 years with the UFC. Watson did clarify that it was not UFC president Dana White, CEO Lorenzo Fertitta or fellow operations coordinator Donna Marcolini and he has never had a problem with any of those three.

Watson said he did not understand why it happened the way it did and called it "unprovoked." He did admit that he himself could have handled it with a cooler head and that sometimes he can be "flip-lipped." But Watson is supremely confident in his coordination process and did not think he deserved to be ripped.

"How that happened or how it escalated to the point where I got a phone call from somebody that spoke that way to me, I don't know," Watson said.

Watson, 66, said Marcolini did contact him after UFC 184 with the hope that she could change his mind. Watson, though, will stand by his decision to leave. And he does not regret it.

"What has happened was not the face of what I would have wanted as an end of my 14-year career," Watson said. "But it's like, I'm a hoodrat with an education. In the streets, if you beat me once you're gonna always have in your head that you can beat me again. If you beat me down and I let you and I come back, you know what? You're gonna beat me until I leave. Because you got in your head, 'I can beat you.' And that's just the way life is."

Watson, a Philadelphia native who was once the manager of legendary boxer Joe Frazier, seemed to expect more leeway in the situation from the official considering he has been doing it for so long and is universally adored by fighters and those in the industry.

"You respect the process," Watson said. "You respect the system. And sometimes before you make certain decisions, respect the creator of the system. There's a reason why a mother would leave her cubs in the cave. She's gotta go find some food, baby. But she comes back. If you go in there and see those cubs by themselves, she's either out getting food, hunting for the kill or she's dead. But she didn't just leave them cubs just to be leaving them."

Watson said he has not spoken to the official since the phone call.

"No," he said. "I don't ever plan to. No, not at all. It's a done situation."

The only reason why Watson has decided to speak in the media is because he saw rumors online that he left because of issues he had with Munoz or Ronda Rousey's team, which Watson vehemently denies.

"When I started hearing that, I said, 'I need to address that,'" Watson said. "These guys, I lived for these guys. I loved those guys for 14 years. When I see them being disturbed about something, I figured I needed to put some kind of a lid on top of it."

Watson, who was dubbed by Joe Rogan as "The Babysitter to the Stars." said he has spoken to Munoz since and Munoz was apologetic, but did not have to be.

"I know that kid," Watson said. "I know that he takes everything to heart. I know that it's his life. He reached out to me in a text and I called him back to let him know that I have no qualms with you, baby. And that's exactly how I've said it."

While it doesn't seem that Watson will ever return to the UFC, he also did seem confident that he would work somewhere -- just not at "that level of pace" again. Watson, who was at every UFC event unless there were two in one day or two in consecutive days far apart, said at one point he did eight shows in 10 weeks.

He added that right now he wants to rest and spend time with his family. But the word "retirement" does seem to be a bit premature. Watson, who was so much more than the guy who pumped up fighters with his "We Rollin'!" catchphrase, will be back in some capacity somewhere one day, perhaps soon.

"Believe me, I am not gonna just drop off the face of the Earth," he said. "That's just not gonna happen. And if it does, you're gonna hear me on the way down, because I'll be rollin' right."

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Thanks for this! Also really loving seeing the livestream.com embeds working well :D
 

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Thanks for this! Also really loving seeing the livestream.com embeds working well :D
The long list of various types of content we can share here is insane. Awesome job on all this Josh, really.
 

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Just listened the interview. I knew Burt wouldn't hear from Dana or Lorenzo, and likely never will. Their ego's are too big to ever ask an employee that left, to come back. I said it the day this stuff came out...no way Dana or Lorenzo calls him.

Hope Burt goes to Bellator.
 

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These kind of little snivelling beta fucks are why I refuse to be involved in corporate America. That is the only place a little midget like that will ever be allowed to cross someone like Burt and not get checked.

 

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These kind of little snivelling beta fucks are why I refuse to be involved in corporate America. That is the only place a little midget like that will ever be allowed to cross someone like Burt and not get checked.

What does his height have to do with anything?
 

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I wish jbj would ave dotted that lil bastards eye...got his power cuz he's a buddy probably and wants to talk down to a VET...Burt is a VET in every sense of the word...Hope he goes to Bellator where the President knows how too treat people.

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What does his height have to do with anything?
Just indicates a case of little man syndrome...not saying all short guys have it..but I gotta feeling Sholler does..
 

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"If you beat me down and I let you and I come back, you know what? You're gonna beat me until I leave. Because you got in your head, 'I can beat you.' And that's just the way life is."

A lot of fighters, in both MMA and boxing, could still learn a thing or two from Burt. If that fake UFC Hall of Fame stands for anything, then there should already be a space reserved there for Burt Watson.
 

WoodenPupa

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LOL. Okay then.

Anyway, I feel like we have about two pieces of a 10-piece puzzle here. Whoever crossed the line, one thing we can be sure of is that it was by somebody younger than Burt, possibly much younger. I can testify from experience that this is something that can drive an older person insane.

People get really wrapped up in their conception of how authority is supposed to operate (especially in corporate environments) and some simply lose touch with the natural chain of command. It's true that not every old person deserves respect---I've worked with some downright childish people in their 50's an even 60's---but Burt does not seem to fit into that category.

A younger guy higher in the chain of corporate command has to handle this kind of situation very delicately, because it's extremely easy to offend the elder party. This is something you can't really grasp until you reach your late 30's/early 40's, when---unless you're at the top of your chain or are self-employed---there will be awkward situations such as this when the younger person has no conception how out of bounds he is in giving a lecture. It's not analogous to being 25 years old and being reprimanded by someone 20, though of course when you're 25 in that situation you feel dissed. But it's not like that at all---it's much, much worse. Because when the gap is on the order of 20 years+, there's not a better way to get your primal switch flipped than getting lectured by a pup. It's a fully tribal rage you feel and at that moment you wish it was 5000 BC, because in those days it was within your rights to hold someone's face to a fire while you informed them of the nature of their delusion.
 

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Just listened the interview. I knew Burt wouldn't hear from Dana or Lorenzo, and likely never will. Their ego's are too big to ever ask an employee that left, to come back. I said it the day this stuff came out...no way Dana or Lorenzo calls him.

Hope Burt goes to Bellator.
i havent listened to the interview, but thats crazy to think that neither Dana or Lorenzo reached out to a long time employee to see what happened. They seem to have no loyalty and will throw anyone under the bus.
 

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i havent listened to the interview, but thats crazy to think that neither Dana or Lorenzo reached out to a long time employee to see what happened. They seem to have no loyalty and will throw anyone under the bus.
Pride and ego is a motherfucker.
 

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He left because of fucking SHOLLER? what the fuck. I hated that squirrely mother fucker before, but now i really hate him.