Everyone-- I enjoyed the comments about MMA journo's cultural bias. Here's my question. If Combate is beating Bellator and TUF on TV in the US, trippling UFC ratings in Mexico, doubling UFC and demolishing Bellator in Spain, trending above UFC on Twitter, viewed on ESPN in South America and on top TV networks (not dogshit networks like most MMA) how is it not a "major" promotion? FYI I answer all comments on my Twitter @campbellcombate
Combate Americas: major MMA promotion...or not?
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If it had an English-language version, then maybe.
Btw those are very selective stats you've posted.
I have Twitter but I answer all questions on here.
Btw those are very selective stats you've posted.
I have Twitter but I answer all questions on here.
*** assuming this is Campbell ***
Hello there
I understand your frustration with lack of coverage, but I think it rubbed people the wrong way that you went to posting that people had a "cultural bias". Even though you wisely never said "racist", people took it that way & most people (if they thought it through) would realize that in advance.
If your goal by posting that on Twitter was to give the promotion some publicity - you achieved that.
That said, I do think your success can be covered more by MMA media.
Media does not need to speak Spanish to report on the success of a show and/or match outcomes.
But in 2018, MMA interest is in a decline as a whole, so expecting non-Spanish language outlets to cover Combate (at this point) is a non realistic goal.
By cutting off an extremely large part of the market & most media, that will hurt your coverage.
But success is something to be proud of & the more success any MMA promotion has, the better for all of MMA.
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I read up on MMA daily and see basically nothing regarding C.A. If they're putting on solid fight cards then it's seems there's not enough media coverage or marketing in thier end. I'd love to tune in but have no idea who fights there, when the events are on and how to watch them.
@campbellcombate if you had one fight from your promotion that you deemed a must see what would it be? Feel free to post link to fight of available.
@campbellcombate if you had one fight from your promotion that you deemed a must see what would it be? Feel free to post link to fight of available.
I guess using "@" at the beginning of a user name screws with the tag feature?
That's how to use tag feature. Not sure it didn't tag him though.
Let's test with
@FrankieNYC again.
WHAT, WHAT ... WHAT DO YOU WANT??????That's how to use tag feature. Not sure it didn't tag him though.
Let's test with
I tried @ @@Campbellcombate & it tagged
Oh but it did.
if i had a way to watch and english commentary i would tune in for sure. i watch acb almost every saturday morning at least for a few fights.i watch all kinds of combat sports if they are on and i know about it.the only time i even know combate america is on is when jolasanda or grabaka hitman is posting gifs. basically promote it to us better and provide a convenient way to stream .the fights will speak for themselves
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I think I remember
@Splinty saying a user required a certain number of posts (like 10 or something) before he/she can be tagged
I must admit I know very little about Combate Americas. Just totally unfamiliar with the product.
Is that because the MMA media doesn't cover it? Probably. But I don't like people throwing around "racism" accusations and I though it was unfair of Mr. McLaren to accuse Iole and Helwani of having ill feelings against hispanics because they didn't want to cover a Spanish-language product.
Is that because the MMA media doesn't cover it? Probably. But I don't like people throwing around "racism" accusations and I though it was unfair of Mr. McLaren to accuse Iole and Helwani of having ill feelings against hispanics because they didn't want to cover a Spanish-language product.
The mma media is not just two english-speaking people. Ariel and Iole are not always my favorite people, but I think they are being picked on unfairly here because they're easy targets right now.
Ariel has finally started covering Bellator more, but he said a long time ago that just covering the UFC was a full time job for him and he didn't want to cover Bellator. He doesn't speak Spanish, which slows covering Combate down for him even more. I don't think it's fair to say he personally should do it. He works for a larger organization, and you can complain to them.
The thing is, the "media" does cover Combate because I see tweets and articles, which is how I know that Castillo and Peña did some kind of tryout commentary and Kyra Batara missed weight.
Imo, if you want English-language media to run your stuff, make sure you send English-language press-releases to the up-and-comers with permission to run as-is. They are trying to get people to write for them for free, so you would be sending them free content. A lot of times they don't even fact check press releases - I saw one from another org once where the PR person had gotten someone's last name completely wrong (Diaz instead of Rodriguez), and it was run by at least two different outlets that way.
Ariel has finally started covering Bellator more, but he said a long time ago that just covering the UFC was a full time job for him and he didn't want to cover Bellator. He doesn't speak Spanish, which slows covering Combate down for him even more. I don't think it's fair to say he personally should do it. He works for a larger organization, and you can complain to them.
The thing is, the "media" does cover Combate because I see tweets and articles, which is how I know that Castillo and Peña did some kind of tryout commentary and Kyra Batara missed weight.
Imo, if you want English-language media to run your stuff, make sure you send English-language press-releases to the up-and-comers with permission to run as-is. They are trying to get people to write for them for free, so you would be sending them free content. A lot of times they don't even fact check press releases - I saw one from another org once where the PR person had gotten someone's last name completely wrong (Diaz instead of Rodriguez), and it was run by at least two different outlets that way.
I watched Combate Americas religiously when it was on Fight Pass, and then it disappeared from that platform. I still try to follow along due to other, lesser known mma outlets like mma-today.com and others.
If it were easier to watch, I would still watch it. While not always the highest level, the fights are always entertaining. That said, in order to watch it, I’d have to expand my already too expensive cable package. Maybe stream on YouTube for people who aren’t in the typical market?
Helwhiny and Iola are overrated, anyway.
If it were easier to watch, I would still watch it. While not always the highest level, the fights are always entertaining. That said, in order to watch it, I’d have to expand my already too expensive cable package. Maybe stream on YouTube for people who aren’t in the typical market?
Helwhiny and Iola are overrated, anyway.
Exactly my thoughts
Here you go. New main event for “Combate Americas: Mexico vs USA” in Sacramento
This is a decent card.
Also another one:
View: https://twitter.com/MMATodayNews/status/993975928811225089?s=20
This is a decent card.
Also another one:
View: https://twitter.com/MMATodayNews/status/993975928811225089?s=20
I too used to watch it when it was on FP. I have no idea where to find it now and with the current saturation of the market I really don’t have time to seek it out or pay extra for it.
I agree with others here. Make an effort to promote the event and provide some English commentary so it’s more accessible to a larger market. In regards to cultural bias, the same can be said about an org who doesn’t see the benefit in having English commentary only to complain about lack of exposure in the English speaking markets. It’s sort of goofy if I’m honest.
I agree with others here. Make an effort to promote the event and provide some English commentary so it’s more accessible to a larger market. In regards to cultural bias, the same can be said about an org who doesn’t see the benefit in having English commentary only to complain about lack of exposure in the English speaking markets. It’s sort of goofy if I’m honest.
I realize that Combate has put a lot of time and effort into promoting Batavia as one of their stars, but at this point, it’s time to move on, and put their promotional muscle behind Lopez Silva.