Not especially.
Definitely feels rushed but I think the benefits outweigh the risks for most people.
Nope. Not in any immediate time frame anyway. But I also wouldn't get a flu shot every year or my TB test if it wasn't required. I'm an otherwise very healthy person that just wouldn't bother. I would still recommend that people get them but unless I just had the spare time when the opportunity presented itself I wouldn't make the time to do it.
Definitely. I think everyone would prefer more time.
No. There's still a lot of questions and things that remain to be seen about how the vaccines will effect the public at large. I'm also afraid that it's going to give idiots a false sense of security to the point where they start ignoring safe guidelines because now there's a vaccine whether they've taken it or not.
So when I get my chance to take the vaccine I'll be jumping in the line to do so without hesitation... But if this was any other type of situation it wouldn't hurt my feelings if I needed to wait a bit to get it.
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She went to see her sister and gave her sister the Rona. Her sister died.
So kill your sister so you can see her one last time? A slow painful death, too.
I doubt that she is thinking, "well I did/didn't follow the protocols "
I must have been drinking when I told that story. Lol
Yes, I have reservations. I am going to get it anyway. But only becauseDo you have any reservations about taking the vaccine? I get that it will likely be required for your job, but I’m curious how you or@SC MMA MD or @Splinty or anyone else in the medical industry feel about taking it now that it’s available. Also tagging @RaginCajun and
@Shinkicker for that question.
There are any number of reasons people have for taking it, or not, but for those of you that know more about these vaccines than the average layperson, how do you feel about it? Would you take it if it wasn’t required for your jobs? Would you prefer more study and trials time? Are you totally fine with it? I haven’t been keeping up with this thread, so apologies if this has been beaten to death.
I am by no means an antivaxxer, but I’m also not rushing to go get this one yet.
@SC MMA MD did. I'm going to check up on him in the few days prior to getting it though. If he doesn't answer I'm backing out.
There was 3 sisters in the story and you hadn't specified who had the Rona which was part of my confusion. Seems obvious now that the one sister was probably being careless and wasn't thinking "I did/didn't follow the protocols". It also occurs to me that when I meet someone under the current circumstances I ask them about how they're handling covid protocols and let their answers dictate whether or not I'm making an appropriate gamble. But its obviously tragic to have played out the way it did.
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*tongue-in-cheek*
Stanford doctors protest, voice concerns about their place in receiving COVID-19 vaccine
"To not be offered a vaccine when I am at the hospital, FaceTiming in attendings (physicians) from home so they can see their patients, and I am in the COVID-positive room, and those attendings are offered a vaccine, it's very hurtful."
the school's known about this since last March when they had to close.
The fact that they're figuring it out on the fly is what's so distressing about the situation.
Yes, they have know about it since March - but they’re not public health experts. They’re having to balance what they deem safe, and also with what their state license guidelines dictate.
And I didn’t mean it like they’re all willy nilly with this, we’re actually pleased with how they have handled it compared to other schools in town. And I’m glad that they keep us parents involved. One of the advantages of a smaller
Private school (we wouldn’t have our kid in school if he was in one of the big public schools). What I meant is that they recognize that things have been evolving and changing all year, so they have had to adapt on the fly as things change. In March, they couldn’t have written their handbook to address or predict every situation. Since the virus, these are the first long holiday breaks they’ve had to figure out how they want to handle. Just like when we took a road trip in October - we were the first family to travel since school had started back up. So we talked with the school when we got back to decide what was safest for the school community. We volunteered a week of homeschool before returning to campus to make sure none of us were sick after traveling, and they agreed that was acceptable. That’s what I meant by adjust on the fly.
@Grateful Dude - was thinking about making this a thread, but seems to fit here.
How the School Reopening Debate Is Tearing One of America’s Most Elite Suburbs Apart
In a district where parents are epidemiologists and health policy experts, the meltdown happened one Zoom meeting at a time.
I have a cousin that sits on the town council just up the road from this city, her and her sisters all have biotech degrees and work in teaching or research. The shitshow detailed in this article is playing out all over the US, but this is almost a 'best-case' shitshow...it's much worse in places where the Teachers' Union is making the decisions based wholly on their perceived collective interest.
in Brookline, the Teachers' Union president referred to the advisory panel, which consisted of:
- a compliance lawyer for hospitals and health care systems
- the Deputy Director of the emergency preparedness program at the Harvard School of Public Health,
- scientist who studied “how pathogens and other microbial communities interact with the human immune and nervous systems,” (Harvard)
- professor who taught health policy and economics (Harvard),
- scientist who worked on on “the development and evaluation of novel diagnostic tests for infectious diseases.” (Harvard)
- a a specialist in pediatric infectious diseases (Harvard)
- an ICU pulmonologist
- an infectious diseases epidemiologist
- a nurse manager
- a professor who developed training programs to implement community health access strategies
- a world-renowned air-quality expert
as "a group of privileged white parents who are extremely skilled at promoting their position. They are squeaky wheels who know how to operate within civil society.”
Our kids can chose between traditional, remote (online learning through their base school), or Virtual Academy.
However, the traditional has plan "levels" according to current risk.
Level 1 is regular school with all the basic precautions (masks while entering or exiting, and in halls. Social distancing, temp checks, etc)
Level 2 is masks all the time plus basics and they split up into groups. Group A goes to school Monday and Thursday. Group B goes on Tuesday and Friday. Wednesday is special needs. The other days are online learning. With e learning on the off days.
Level 3 is all e learning days.
We started on Level 3.
This was going well until mid November. Now we get a call on Thursday for next week's plan (level).
Those teachers must be exhausted.
However, the traditional has plan "levels" according to current risk.
Level 1 is regular school with all the basic precautions (masks while entering or exiting, and in halls. Social distancing, temp checks, etc)
Level 2 is masks all the time plus basics and they split up into groups. Group A goes to school Monday and Thursday. Group B goes on Tuesday and Friday. Wednesday is special needs. The other days are online learning. With e learning on the off days.
Level 3 is all e learning days.
We started on Level 3.
This was going well until mid November. Now we get a call on Thursday for next week's plan (level).
Those teachers must be exhausted.
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Consistently google things (leaving that) my 'and' is 'in' and my 'in' is 'and'.
I blame my accent but frankly I think I've trained the voice to text to do a bad job now.
Then/than is another consistent replacement.
The many strange long-term symptoms of Covid-19, explained
Long Covid “is a phenomenon that is really quite real and quite extensive,” Anthony Fauci said.
This is how I feel about the teachers at our school. They have tirelessly worked this year to keep the kids growing and advancing. I admire their dedication. As my wife could tell you, I have often complained about how much this school costs me (especially when we were home learning and paying full price), but put my bitching aside and they have done an incredible job. Like many, their jobs have dramatically changed. Yes it’s expensive, but I strongly believe we have him in the right place - and the dedication from his teachers reinforces that every week.
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I was hoping it was a voice-to-text thing.
And though it's getting better, VTT isn't perfect. I have no regional accent as you know and it constantly changes "finna" to "gonna" for me...
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To be fair, I'm not sure I would know that tongue in cheek was hyphenated. I mean it's pronounced as a singular string that is standalone so I guess it makes sense but I don't think I've ever written it that way.
It's easy to be an expert and sit back and tell teachers that they will be safe interacting with little infectious monsters running around everywhere, it's another to actually be the cunt that is forced into doing it.
How the School Reopening Debate Is Tearing One of America’s Most Elite Suburbs Apart
In a district where parents are epidemiologists and health policy experts, the meltdown happened one Zoom meeting at a time.slate.com
I have a cousin that sits on the town council just up the road from this city, her and her sisters all have biotech degrees and work in teaching or research. The shitshow detailed in this article is playing out all over the US, but this is almost a 'best-case' shitshow...it's much worse in places where the Teachers' Union is making the decisions based wholly on their perceived collective interest.
in Brookline, the Teachers' Union president referred to the advisory panel, which consisted of:
- a compliance lawyer for hospitals and health care systems
- the Deputy Director of the emergency preparedness program at the Harvard School of Public Health,
- scientist who studied “how pathogens and other microbial communities interact with the human immune and nervous systems,” (Harvard)
- professor who taught health policy and economics (Harvard),
- scientist who worked on on “the development and evaluation of novel diagnostic tests for infectious diseases.” (Harvard)
- a a specialist in pediatric infectious diseases (Harvard)
- an ICU pulmonologist
- an infectious diseases epidemiologist
- a nurse manager
- a professor who developed training programs to implement community health access strategies
- a world-renowned air-quality expert
as "a group of privileged white parents who are extremely skilled at promoting their position. They are squeaky wheels who know how to operate within civil society.”
so reading the article isn't really your thing...just commenting on it.
noted.
I fully admit I didn't read through all that shit. I was interpreting your summary of it.
I am referring to a debate that is being held everywhere - that experts are telling teachers they will be safe doing face to face teaching if they just implement certain protocols. To which teachers are replying 'fuck off, you fucking do it if you think it is so safe'. And I have sympathy for teachers on this, even though I usually think teachers are lowest members of society, after lawyers and fire fighters.
If this is not what that article is about - it sure seems like it though - then my apologies.
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Hyphens can get confusing. Generally, we use them with pairs of adjectives used immediately before nouns that are interdependent (otherwise we'd separate with nothing or with a comma depending on usage) like high-flying acrobat, quick-witted gentleman, etc. When these are used after nouns, we typically don't use the hyphens, so you technically aren't wrong not to use them in the given context. I might use them in the same context anyway because of the trigram. The ruling on trigrams isn't uniform.
But with adverbs ending in -ly, using a hyphen would be incorrect (e.g. carefully worded speech, hastily drawn conclusions, closely watched program).
For adverbs not ending in -ly it gets a little hazy. Is it a fast moving river or a fast-moving river? An all powerful god or an all-powerful god? I'd probably go with the latter of each, respectively. The former wouldn't look wrong to me, but if well-done steak or well-known author weren't hyphenated, I would probably think the writer is from Alabama or Mississippi. Iirc the rule says to hyphenate adverb-adjective expressions when the adverb doesn't end in -ly (most adverbs do).
tl;dr - You get a pass....this time.
Edit - the word fast in fast-moving river is used as an adjective, not an adverb.
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it's more about how everyone in the public sector is trying to figure out how to leverage the pandemic to get what they've been trying to get for years. The same mechanisms are at play for everyone, but it's frightening the basis on which educators are disparaging people who genuinely know what they're doing and want the best for their kids.
It's a difficult situation, but it's definitely an eye-opening example for those who think our collectivist social tendencies can over-ride our selfish nature.
State senator dies from COVID-19 complications
Minnesota State Republican Sen. Jerry Relph has died due to complications from COVID-19.
It seems that they are disparaging people who they believe are trying to force them into an unsafe work environment using limited and questionable data primarily for their own interests - because they don't want to take care of their own shitty children - when contactless teaching mechanisms exist. Hardly seems like a reason to drop your monocle.
You'd need to force me at gunpoint just to be a school teacher during the best of times and during a pandemic I'm going to dive for that gun while you're distracted. I say fair play to them.
As for the lesson that competing interests can play dirty during labor disputes...yes, welcome to society.