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Cloth masks have been a problem for a while. This is primarily the gators that everyone prefers on the south. There are studies that suggest even increased aerosolization through them.
On top of that, while using a cloth face mask (not gator) is probably useful somewhat, no one seems to wash them and that's where you get mascne (mask acne).

Get a plain jane surgical mask and it's cheap and lowers rate of spread.

N95s are better but likely a poor use of resources and also significantly more annoying to wear.

Sometimes perfection meets the reality of implementation. Cost, creating a shortage of N95s in healthcare, who the hell is willing to wear and N95 all the time if not being paid, etc.

Probably the biggest thing stopping everyone from forcing surgical masks specifically over cloth face coverings is that It is seen as a bit elitist. Everyone can reasonably expected to put a handkerchief or t-shirt over their face without having to purchase anything. Forcing people to go out and purchase something will be met with even more resistance than current mask recommendations.
 

Hauler

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Unless it's Halloween, I'm never wearing a mask again.

The CDC can kiss my ass.
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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Cloth masks have been a problem for a while. This is primarily the gators that everyone prefers on the south. There are studies that suggest even increased aerosolization through them.
On top of that, while using a cloth face mask (not gator) is probably useful somewhat, no one seems to wash them and that's where you get mascne (mask acne).

Get a plain jane surgical mask and it's cheap and lowers rate of spread.

N95s are better but likely a poor use of resources and also significantly more annoying to wear.

Sometimes perfection meets the reality of implementation. Cost, creating a shortage of N95s in healthcare, who the hell is willing to wear and N95 all the time if not being paid, etc.

Probably the biggest thing stopping everyone from forcing surgical masks specifically over cloth face coverings is that It is seen as a bit elitist. Everyone can reasonably expected to put a handkerchief or t-shirt over their face without having to purchase anything. Forcing people to go out and purchase something will be met with even more resistance than current mask recommendations.
I think you're grossly overimplying the efficacy of surgical masks. They're better than cloth, but not by much according to any and all studies. We've known for quite sometime that anything short of a fitted N95 mask is "better than nothing", but that's as much as you can say. This is why Fauci told everyone they need to wear 3.

Even if we assume surgical masks to be better than they are, the supply issues at a population level and the cost at the individual level renders the idea of mandating them untenable. There's also going to be a massive environmental fallout from covid's security theater, but I guess that's a topic for another day.
 
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but aren't "cases" now just a positive test, where before it was a positive test and present at a hospital for symptoms?
Not anywhere here. Positive tests were reported to the county which went into the state pool. This included tests in the outpatient setting regardless of symptoms and included rapid antigen tests.
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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My brother, who's been on high covid alert for the last 18 months is going to Ft Lauderdale tomorrow, lol.
 

Filthy

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I think you're grossly overimplying the efficacy of surgical masks. They're better than cloth, but not by much according to any and all studies. We've known for quite sometime that anything short of a fitted N95 mask is "better than nothing", but that's as much as you can say.
if you restrict it to "properly fitted, of an appropriate material, worn correctly" the efficacy of fabric/surgical masks is clear.
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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if you restrict it to "properly fitted, of an appropriate material, worn correctly" the efficacy of fabric/surgical masks is clear.
Unfortunately when you add "appropriate" material the rest of the sentence flies out the window.
 
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Someone has to lead us out of this insanity.

I'm not the hero you asked for...
But I'm the one you all need.

I can't imagine how hard it was for you to not wear a mask in Ohio. Must have been terrifying!
 
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Florida again breaks record for COVID-19 hospitalizations

The number of people hospitalized for COVID-19 in Florida rose to an all-time high of 11,515 patients in one day, according to data the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services released Tuesday.

The data is used by the Florida Hospital Association to track admissions and staffing shortages. The figures also show 2,400 of those patients are in ICU beds.

The previous day, the data showed there were 10,389 COVID-hospitalizations in the state.

The new number breaks a previous record for current hospitalizations set more than a year ago before vaccines were available. Last year, Florida hit its previous peak on July 23, with 10,170 hospitalizations.

Hospitals around the state report having to put emergency room visitors in beds in hallways and others document a noticeable drop in the age of patients.

The addition of 1,126 more COVID patients in Florida hospitals was announced amid a power struggle between Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis and local officials over how to protect children and staff as the school year begins.

Broward County’s school board voted last week to require facial coverings when in-person learning resumes this month, enforcing the latest recommendations of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. But the board reversed itself after DeSantis signed an executive order preventing mask mandates in schools, and empowering the state to deny funding to any districts that don’t comply.

Broward’s board had responded to the latest science on the virus, which suggests that while vaccinated people are extremely unlikely to be hospitalized or die from COVID-19, they can still spread infection among those who haven’t had their shots. This revelation prompted the CDC to recommend “universal indoor masking for all teachers, staff, students, and visitors to K-12 schools, regardless of vaccination status.”

“Unfortunately, Dade and Broward County lead the nation in hospitalizations,” Broward County Mayor Steve Geller said Monday. “The numbers are doubling every 10 or 11 days. Geometric progression. This is horrifying.”

The Republican governor said he wants parents to decide whether their children should wear a mask to school. He also claimed the outbreak is seasonal, caused by people gathering indoors to avoid Florida’s heat and humidity.

A law DeSantis signed in May gives him power to invalidate local emergency public health measures, including mask mandates and limitations on business operations. It also bans any business or government entity from requiring proof of vaccination.

The Broward district now says it will encourage, but not require, students age 12 and older, as well as teachers and staff to get vaccinated. It will also encourage the use of facial coverings.

“Safety remains our highest priority,” the district’s statement said.


 

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Florida again breaks record for COVID-19 hospitalizations

The number of people hospitalized for COVID-19 in Florida rose to an all-time high of 11,515 patients in one day, according to data the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services released Tuesday.

The data is used by the Florida Hospital Association to track admissions and staffing shortages. The figures also show 2,400 of those patients are in ICU beds.

The previous day, the data showed there were 10,389 COVID-hospitalizations in the state.

The new number breaks a previous record for current hospitalizations set more than a year ago before vaccines were available. Last year, Florida hit its previous peak on July 23, with 10,170 hospitalizations.

Hospitals around the state report having to put emergency room visitors in beds in hallways and others document a noticeable drop in the age of patients.

The addition of 1,126 more COVID patients in Florida hospitals was announced amid a power struggle between Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis and local officials over how to protect children and staff as the school year begins.

Broward County’s school board voted last week to require facial coverings when in-person learning resumes this month, enforcing the latest recommendations of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. But the board reversed itself after DeSantis signed an executive order preventing mask mandates in schools, and empowering the state to deny funding to any districts that don’t comply.

Broward’s board had responded to the latest science on the virus, which suggests that while vaccinated people are extremely unlikely to be hospitalized or die from COVID-19, they can still spread infection among those who haven’t had their shots. This revelation prompted the CDC to recommend “universal indoor masking for all teachers, staff, students, and visitors to K-12 schools, regardless of vaccination status.”

“Unfortunately, Dade and Broward County lead the nation in hospitalizations,” Broward County Mayor Steve Geller said Monday. “The numbers are doubling every 10 or 11 days. Geometric progression. This is horrifying.”

The Republican governor said he wants parents to decide whether their children should wear a mask to school. He also claimed the outbreak is seasonal, caused by people gathering indoors to avoid Florida’s heat and humidity.

A law DeSantis signed in May gives him power to invalidate local emergency public health measures, including mask mandates and limitations on business operations. It also bans any business or government entity from requiring proof of vaccination.

The Broward district now says it will encourage, but not require, students age 12 and older, as well as teachers and staff to get vaccinated. It will also encourage the use of facial coverings.

“Safety remains our highest priority,” the district’s statement said.


State full of simp lords. People there go to hospital just to avoid all the weirdos in the streets.
 

RaginCajun

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I've been thinking of ways we can encourage Covid vaccines here @Splinty.
First, we should remove any first 100 tag from the unvaccinated and distribute them among the vaccinated.
Second, disqualify any unvaccinated from Monsters.
Last, offer a nude 8x10 of Sex Chicken @Sex Chicken's wife or of Sex Chicken @Sex Chicken himself, your choice/ no judgement.
 

Hauler

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I can't imagine how hard it was for you to not wear a mask in Ohio. Must have been terrifying!
I wore a mask for like 6 months.
I played by their rules. Even got vaxed.

They said we were done so now I'm claiming "no-takebacks"

If Biden wants to come out here to the land of milk and honey, he can try to put a mask on me himself.

We'll just see what happens.

 
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I wore a mask for like 6 months.
I played by their rules. Even got vaxed.

They said we were done so now I'm claiming "no-takebacks"

If Biden wants to come out here to the land of milk and honey, he can try to put a mask on me himself.

We'll just see what happens.

He would beat the fucking shit out of you.