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Feel free to pick apart this article if you find it to be incorrect. Post contrary sources and articles if you wish.

Your article judges your own stat as partly false due to the massaged nature of it.

I mean ... Your own article casts doubt on your own number. What do you want me to do with that. You are disagreeing with yourself.
 
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So much salt splinty

No. It just seems continually crappy to throw stuff into the mix unsourced with no context and then hope no one challenges it. Then when they do to state "hey I haven't done any due diligence on this, but feel free to. If it's wrong its not my fault for continuing to muddy the waters. If it's right, go ahead and look back at my post where it supports my opinion".


This is exactly what we consider throwing darts in my world. It takes no energy to continue to lob out that information on your part...even going as far as making a statement that implies the low death rate validating your positions... and takes a ton of energy on everyone else's part to figure out where it's coming from and why it is or isn't accurate.

All anyone is saying is that you should post some context when you toss this stuff out in the mix instead of leading the burden on everybody else.
 

Rambo John J

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No. It just seems continually crappy to throw stuff into the mix unsourced with no context and then hope no one challenges it. Then when they do to state "hey I haven't done any due diligence on this, but feel free to. If it's wrong its not my fault for continuing to muddy the waters. If it's right, go ahead and look back at my post where it supports my opinion".


This is exactly what we consider throwing darts in my world. It takes no energy to continue to lob out that information on your part...even going as far as making a statement that implies the low death rate validating your positions... and takes a ton of energy on everyone else's part to figure out where it's coming from and why it is or isn't accurate.

All anyone is saying is that you should post some context when you toss this stuff out in the mix instead of leading the burden on everybody else.
You conveniently don't engage when I post credible links, or make good points.

Why would I continue to care about sourcing information or explaining my thought process when it is ignored because it goes against your paradigm and beliefs?

I know the article casts doubt upon that estimate, that is why I posted it.
Impossible to know the actual death rate because we don't have numbers on how many people have had it.

Engage without so much salt and you will get better behavior from those you engage with.

I ask again what do you think is an accurate death rate? If you don't know, it ok to admit as much
 

Rambo John J

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Your article judges your own stat as partly false due to the massaged nature of it.

I mean ... Your own article casts doubt on your own number. What do you want me to do with that. You are disagreeing with yourself.
This is what I posted @Splinty
"% .26 death rate and dropping according to some recent estimates"

How am I disagreeing with myself haha...I just relayed an estimate I had recently read...You should know I am not entirely trusting the numbers that are coming out on both "sides".

I just posted "some recent estimates"

If you think I am sold by that estimate or article you are the one jumping to conclusions.
 
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You conveniently don't engage when I post credible links, or make good points.
Like your Twitter shaman guy?



Engage without so much salt and you will get better behavior from those you engage with.

Is this like whenever you state that you're trolling and it's everybody else's fault because they're trolls?

I ask again what do you think is an accurate death rate? If you don't know, it ok to admit as much
Probably inside of that CDC range that you just posted
 

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Today I purchased two different masks.... A casual set and a formal set. The latter looks nicer at the office. Adjustable ear loops are important when wearing a mask so much and I highly recommend it when you consider your next mask purchase.

This is a choice I never thought id be making and proves our city's full ICU beds are actually big fashion trying to topple Trump's presidency and sell their t-shirt scraps to me.
So you bit off your nose to spite your face, literally.

Like, I'm sitting RIGHT HERE practically giving comfortable, fashionable, and highly effective N99's away, but NOOOOOOOO....
 
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So you bit off your nose to spite your face, literally.

Like, I'm sitting RIGHT HERE practically giving comfortable, fashionable, and highly effective N99's away, but NOOOOOOOO....

There is zero doubt in my mind that I will catch the Corona virus before you.
In every single way your mask protects you better.




But I'm not stuck in here with my patients. They're stuck in here with me.
 

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There is zero doubt in my mind that I will catch the Corona virus before you.
In every single way your mask protects you better.




But I'm not stuck in here with my patients. They're stuck in here with me.

You were born with the Covid.

Everyone else has merely adopted it.
 

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Is this like whenever you state that you're trolling and it's everybody else's fault because they're trolls?
you let the weeds grow too big and powerful
they spread seeds and this is the environment that now exists
I do troll now, I take responsibility for it because I do it by choice
Didn't used to the first couple years, but joined your club of trolls now
TOS said not to but it appears to not be important to adhere to

Like your Twitter shaman guy?
Can't remember that guy exactly...I doubt I read any of his tweets other than what I posted
This thread is full of wacky shit posted from all sides so I don't feel bad for pooping on the floor next to a pile of poop.

Probably inside of that CDC range that you just posted
I appreciate the straight forward non salty response


I get it that you disagree with some of what I post and how I post it.
If you think you are gonna straighten me out and teach me a lesson then you are wasting your time.

I don't take the forum, my posts, your posts, this thread, etc...seriously
I post a mix of humor, truth trolling, and speculation.

If you want me to ghost this place and make your forum better and/or your life easier then I will.

I came for the MMA and because Wild was a buddy...venturing into off topic was something I did hesitantly and it does have some toxic elements and characters to it(myself included at times)

Anyways...Have a good day
Live Long and Prosper
 

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So you bit off your nose to spite your face, literally.

Like, I'm sitting RIGHT HERE practically giving comfortable, fashionable, and highly effective N99's away, but NOOOOOOOO....
save one for me bro
I will trade you some silver for it
 
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I take responsibility for it because I do it by choice

You literally just blamed me not responding to your posts as a reason that you don't cite your posts dude.
While I am flattered, that seems a pretty over-the-top excuse on top of this post.




If you want me to ghost this place and make your life easier then I will

Literally just want you to cite your posts more often than not...or at least not hide behind "now I never read this so don't blame me for perpetuating it without citing" when someone asks where something came from. That's it.
People post stuff without citations all the time. But most people aren't giving a defense after the fact when they post a link abdicating their own connection to the statement they just pushed.



I don't take the forum, my posts, your posts, this thread, etc...seriously
Serious enough that criticism over asking for data to be cited and just say what you mean, has you offering to quit the place. That's not my intent of desire. I am just saying like I would anyone...if you're gonna tell people I think X because of Y...but then run away from Y after the fact, it seems pretty slippery and intentionally muddying people trying to figure out reality.
 

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Where I come from we call that throwing darts and hoping one sticks.
How very politely southern of you. Where I come from, it's called throwing shit at a wall. Followed by someone calling you a cunt and then saying something unnecessarily racist.
 

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you let the weeds grow too big and powerful
they spread seeds and this is the environment that now exists
I do troll now, I take responsibility for it because I do it by choice
Didn't used to the first couple years, but joined your club of trolls now
TOS said not to but it appears to not be important to adhere to


Can't remember that guy exactly...I doubt I read any of his tweets other than what I posted
This thread is full of wacky shit posted from all sides so I don't feel bad for pooping on the floor next to a pile of poop.



I appreciate the straight forward non salty response


I get it that you disagree with some of what I post and how I post it.
If you think you are gonna straighten me out and teach me a lesson then you are wasting your time.

I don't take the forum, my posts, your posts, this thread, etc...seriously
I post a mix of humor, truth trolling, and speculation.

If you want me to ghost this place and make your forum better and/or your life easier then I will.

I came for the MMA and because Wild was a buddy...venturing into off topic was something I did hesitantly and it does have some toxic elements and characters to it(myself included at times)

Anyways...Have a good day
Live Long and Prosper
You literally just blamed me not responding to your posts as a reason that you don't cite your posts dude.
While I am flattered, that seems a pretty over-the-top excuse on top of this post.







Literally just want you to cite your posts more often than not...or at least not hide behind "now I never read this so don't blame me for perpetuating it without citing" when someone asks where something came from. That's it.
People post stuff without citations all the time. But most people aren't giving a defense after the fact when they post a link abdicating their own connection to the statement they just pushed.





Serious enough that criticism over asking for data to be cited and just say what you mean, has you offering to quit the place. That's not my intent of desire. I am just saying like I would anyone...if you're gonna tell people I think X because of Y...but then run away from Y after the fact, it seems pretty slippery and intentionally muddying people trying to figure out reality.
Settle down or I will ban both of you.
 

Rambo John J

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You literally just blamed me not responding to your posts as a reason that you don't cite your posts dude.
While I am flattered, that seems a pretty over-the-top excuse on top of this post.
Wasn't about you so much.
Plenty of good links are ignored if they go against the paradigm or set beliefs.
"Your" was meant to include others here and online discussion in general, some are just not in good faith or even discussions at all

Literally just want you to cite your posts more often than not...or at least not hide behind "now I never read this so don't blame me for perpetuating it without citing" when someone asks where something came from. That's it.
People post stuff without citations all the time. But most people aren't giving a defense after the fact when they post a link abdicating their own connection to the statement they just pushed.
I can do that, and not all that I post is unsourced...Some of it certainly is and often it is a subtle troll on my part.
There is no hiding going on as much as I just don't give a shit about trying to inform or discuss with those who are not willing to consider other angles or sources.
I respect the choice to not engage on things you don't want to engage about or ideas you would rather not entertain.
I just have stopped caring about sources as much because when I do source I only get people asking for cliffs, shooting the messenger instead of addressing the message, or just being a smart ass(dog faced pony soldier) due to previous discussions, labels, or stereotypes about either me or the topic in general.
A decent portion of the responses on this forum aren't really honest and thoughtful, as much as they are vengeful and argumentative...Is what it is and I think you can see it.

Serious enough that criticism over asking for data to be cited and just say what you mean, has you offering to quit the place. That's not my intent of desire. I am just saying like I would anyone...if you're gonna tell people I think X because of Y...but then run away from Y after the fact, it seems pretty slippery and intentionally muddying people trying to figure out reality.
Me quitting the place is a bit of a troll also.
I could take or leave off topic but I do really enjoy the hardcore MMA guys here and the discussions with them +live threads.
I do sense frustration from you and there are a couple unsavory characters that enjoy trolling me for reaction. If me leaving made it a better forum and environment I would absolutely do so. If I left, I suspect my "haters"(who I have absolutely no hard feels for) would just shift their sights elsewhere though and it wouldn't change the environment much at all.

As for muddying waters? Ya, I do that intentionally because I view a lot of the stuff posted as News and even some of what passes for Science as propaganda and divide and conquer tactics.
I do post honesty and thoughtful posts from time to time.
Honestly seems to rub some people the wrong way so I have switched it up and engage in starting shit at at times.
So if I "run away" it may just be me agreeing to disagree and not wanting to engage on the topic any longer as to move on to more productive life and/or internet activities...Some folks here will go on for many pages arguing and I have tried to learn my lesson and avoid those exchanges.

I do completely source and discuss in good faith online...This forum isn't a place that I do that 100% of the time right now, I do that elsewhere.
If you read the first few years of my posts I was doing exactly that.
There are other forums where I will discuss in good faith, here I pick my spots nowadays

TLDR
I enjoy the forum and many of it's characters
I have my own way of thinking and posting and even inciting
Have a Nice Day and be Happy
 
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