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You keep referring to these 'stories' yet never elaborate. If you aren't going to cite some why bring it up?
This is his M.O.

He pretends to have inside information because in his mind (and only in his mind) he thinks he's a big deal in the MMA world because he kind of knew a now-retired MMA fighter and texted with a now-retired WMMA fighter.

He's not trolling, he is clearly suffering from some sort of mental delirium.
 
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Never testing positive for them, and never doing them are two totally different things.



Innocent until proven guilty should be how society responds to baseless accusations.
 
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that's why I put "steroids" in quotes. He consumed several banned substances which are commonly used by PED abusers.
He was also able to produce some pills which had those substances, and expects us to take him at his word that the pills were the reason he tested positive for banned substances. But there's no evidence beyond his unassailable integrity that he took the pills.

He violated the rules regarding consumption of prohibited substances. He has excuses, and you can choose to believe his excuses, but they're just excuses.
It's not just me. USADA also believed his explanation. He received a year suspension due to negligence and carelessness (also stated in the report).

Have you read the report? If not, you really should.

http://ufc.usada.org/wp-content/uploads/Award-6-November-2016.pdf
 

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This is his M.O.

He pretends to have inside information because in his mind (and only in his mind) he thinks he's a big deal in the MMA world because he kind of knew a now-retired MMA fighter and texted with a now-retired WMMA fighter.

He's not trolling, he is clearly suffering from some sort of mental delirium.
To be fair, he's also dating Tara LaRosa and knows a lot of fighters in Vegas. But yeah, I agree. Elaborate on the stories.
 

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To be fair, he's also dating Tara LaRosa and knows a lot of fighters in Vegas. But yeah, I agree. Elaborate on the stories.
That explains his opinionated responses in all the wmma threads. I always thought he was kind of an arrogant prick, to be honest I still do, but now at least I can see why.

I still wish he'd tell a few of these stories. I don't troll the internet for dirt on Jones drunken behaviour and would like to hear first / second hand accounts of the retardedness he gets involved in.
 
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No, he did not take steroids. He tested positive for hydroxy-clomiphene and letrozole metabolite, neither of which is a "steroid" and BOTH of which were found in a generic cialis (tadalafil) pill that he had taken (without knowing that the pill contained these banned substances).

If he really were a drug cheat, he would've tested positive for ACTUAL steroids by now.

HE HASN'T.
There's a LOT of fighters out there who've gone many years and still are using, without getting "popped". More have since USADA but not even close to all of them. People forget that the more money one has the newer and more expensive substance being used, USADA is always playing catch up, designer PEDS are always one step ahead. The Letrozole metabolite found in Jones generic cialis could have been wisely chosen as a pill to mask something else. Much easier to give a reason for something being in your system than not having one at all... or saying something like "Kangaroo Meat".

Yes you are correct, Jones may not of been popped for roids but that still doesn't make him innocent. Issue people have with him is his track record for not telling the truth and for making very bad decisions. If he'll do coke, drive drunk (multiple times), run away from an accident, it does show an "I don't give a shit attitude" where he feels he's above the law and the rules. Not to far a jump to believing he'd use PEDS.
 

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maybe he did, maybe he didn't. maybe a case of crying wolf from all of his past behaviors.

I thought it was funny during the presser, Jones says, "Feels good, not giving a fuck~" and immediately gives a fuck when reporter asks about the steroid accusation.

classic Jon Jones
 

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I would bet Jon right now personally...but wait till fight night unless someone gets popped or doesn't make weight.

DC is just having a real bad time getting to 205 and I think it will affect cardio big time...Rumble went out so quick we never saw how bad the cut affected him...body is just old to be doing that 3 times a year.
 

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I would bet Jon right now personally...but wait till fight night unless someone gets popped or doesn't make weight.

DC is just having a real bad time getting to 205 and I think it will affect cardio big time...Rumble went out so quick we never saw how bad the cut affected him...body is just old to be doing that 3 times a year.
 

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good to hear...I don't like guys pushing those kidneys to the limit
his mind is there...his body stressed many times over

Hope he feels good fight night

Jon Big muscle are also interesting...he is not gonna have an easy cut either I suspect(could be wrong tho)
 

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Never testing positive for them, and never doing them are two totally different things.



I'm not saying Jones has always been clean PED-wise; none of us know that, but that before/after that they always use is not evidence of anything. People can change their bodies in a clean manner. The one on the left is Jon when his body looked at its worst, and the one on the right was after a ton of powerlifting, not to mention the lighting. Jones got huge when he was lifting, but that particular picture is by far the best one from that era. His body is going to get better, especially since he was completely off the rails partying on the left. It's a stunning transformation, but Jones is a physical freak. A before/after with a guy who started actually applying himself to building muscle doesn't tell us how he did it.