Society Dark Winter 2.0

[sparkuri]

I don't see anything particularly insightful or useful in his comment, but his supporters post it like he foretold the future.

Trump's allure is telling the truth to the people he serves, and for that matter acknowledging that he is a public servant, two paramount boilerplates of the position.
He does it in the face of mockery.
Obama was worshipped for doing the opposite, like Biden.

 

[Filthy]

Trump's allure is telling the truth to the people he serves, and for that matter acknowledging that he is a public servant, two paramount boilerplates of the position.
He does it in the face of mockery.
Obama was worshipped for doing the opposite, like Biden.

you consider Trump a "truth-teller"? like he speaks truth to power and stands up for the interest of the common poor American?

 

[sparkuri]

you consider Trump a "truth-teller"? like he speaks truth to power and stands up for the interest of the common poor American?.

I consider him a loudspeaker of common sense amidst a culture drinking & perpetuating lies

 

[IschKabibble]

you consider Trump a "truth-teller"? like he speaks truth to power and stands up for the interest of the common poor American?

100%. It's why every power structure on earth is against him.

 

[Filthy]

100%. It's why every power structure on earth is against him.

so why didn't he pardon Assange, Manning, Hale, etc?

 

[IschKabibble]

so why didn't he pardon Assange, Manning, Hale, etc?

For giving away state secrets? That should be obvious.

 

[IschKabibble]

All he has to do is barely peel back the curtain to allow us to see what we already knew.

 

[Filthy]

For giving away state secrets? That should be obvious.

"state secrets" like he hid in his private residence (allegedly)?

so the fact that we are killing 90% civilians with our drones and that we're spying on our own citizens is a state secret that should be protected? It seems like those are the kind of secrets that bring down power structures and empower citizens

 

[IschKabibble]

e.g. Maxwell in prison, Epstein dead (maybe).

 

[IschKabibble]

"state secrets" like he hid in his private residence (allegedly)?

so the fact that we are killing 90% civilians with our drones and that we're spying on our own citizens is a state secret that should be protected? It seems like those are the kind of secrets that bring down power structures and empower citizens

You blow the whistle, not sell out to foreigners. I'd like to see Assange pardoned too, but I'm not holding my breath.

 

[sparkuri]

"state secrets" like he hid in his private residence (allegedly)?

so the fact that we are killing 90% civilians with our drones and that we're spying on our own citizens is a state secret that should be protected? It seems like those are the kind of secrets that bring down power structures and empower citizens

The "state secrets" being withheld are the kind the bring down hegemonies & indeed empower people.
According to the whole of Washington DC, Assange & Snowden threaten national security, and Trump would be painted the same way, thus why we saw impeachments, lies, trials, article 25 mentions & everything short of actual assassination ala Kennedy.

 

[sparkuri]

Oh yeah, and a coup & recent raid.

 

[Filthy]

You blow the whistle, not sell out to foreigners. I'd like to see Assange pardoned too, but I'm not holding my breath.

they sold out to foreigners? how?

 

[IschKabibble]

they sold out to foreigners? how?

Assange is not a US citizen and Wikileaks is not a domestic US watchdog. You're literally putting your neck on the line giving away wartime secrets like that. But it seems to me like Assange is still being used as a pawn on the chess board. Honestly, who the fuck knows what happens next?

 

[mysticmac]

Do you guys have high level clearance and access?

I do! I got a great deal on a pair of cargo shorts off the clearance rack at my local outdoor store yesterday! Now that's what I call high level clearance access!

 

[Filthy]

Assange is not a US citizen and Wikileaks is not a domestic US watchdog.

so what?

those were wartime secrets? Exposing how we're mismanaging the war and lying to our citizens?

when the gov't is lying about the war, the truth must be made public.

If the Truth can destroy a thing, that thing must be destroyed.

 

[BeardOfKnowledge]

For giving away state secrets? That should be obvious.

The state was breaking the law and flagrantly pissing all over people's freedoms.

 

[BeardOfKnowledge]

"state secrets" like he hid in his private residence (allegedly)?

You're smarter than to be presenting this nonsense so frequently. Have you not noticed the feds have waffled on what they allegedly found multiple times now?

The whole thing of course is contingent on an area protected by the secret service being "insecure".

 

[Filthy]

You're smarter than to be presenting this nonsense so frequently. Have you not noticed the feds have waffled on what they allegedly found multiple times now?

The whole thing of course is contingent on an area protected by the secret service being "insecure".

tell me about a SCIF and how the presence of the Department of Treasury makes a place a SCIF

 

[Filthy]

You're smarter than to be presenting this nonsense so frequently. Have you not noticed the feds have waffled on what they allegedly found multiple times now?

The whole thing of course is contingent on an area protected by the secret service being "insecure".

no one is denying that he had classified material, or that he lied about returning everything.

both of those things are felonies. Look up Harold Martin and tell me why he's in prison.

 

[BeardOfKnowledge]

no one is denying that he had classified material

As has been pointed out to you before "classified" doesn't actually mean anything.

 

[BeardOfKnowledge]

tell me about a SCIF and how the presence of the Department of Treasury makes a place a SCIF

Let's think this through. The secret service protects the nuclear football. What in your opinion, would be more important than that from a security standpoint?

 

[Filthy]

Let's think this through. The secret service protects the nuclear football. What in your opinion, would be more important than that from a security standpoint?

laws, how do they work? Nuclear football, how does it work? can someone just steal the football and launch nukes?

tell me you have no experience with secure information without telling me you have no experience with secure information.

How about the identity of embedded assets in hostile foreign regimes?

 

[Filthy]

As has been pointed out to you before "classified" doesn't actually mean anything.

He had classified material, including documents classified as Top Secret (unless you're saying the DOJ is lying about the documents they recovered).

He sent a guy to prison for 9 years for less than he's accused of.

Facts are still a thing, so are laws.

 

[BeardOfKnowledge]

laws, how do they work? Nuclear football, how does it work? can someone just steal the football and launch nukes?

tell me you have no experience with secure information without telling me you have no experience with secure information.

How about the identity of embedded assets in hostile foreign regimes?

Your inability to answer the direct question speaks volumes as do your ad hominems.