DIAZ VS KHABIB BRAWL VIDEO

[Γαλάνης]

I don't see it, I don't see them having to ever convince people of anything I never hear a single discussion themed "Are MMA fighters animals and savages?".

Haven't for half a decade at least. People were saying this was all bad for the sport before the signs got thrown. No the signs are not a good thing, that part, fine that's stupid. But brawling doesn't bother me as entity and it doesn't bother promoters. People are in for star power and hype now, regardless of what happens as long at isn't a hot button issue.

That's it.

You'd be surprised dude. A lot of people older than their 30s, and a lot of non athletic men/men who aren't into combat sports/younger women, don't know a damn thing about the sport, and think it's pretty damn brutal.

Especially older folk who know nothing about it except shit like the War Machine Christy Mack deal, and whatever other shit CNN puts front page when an MMA fighter fucks up.. and they're sure to put "UFC FIGHTER" in all caps even if the guy was barely a prelim fighter.

The perception has certainly changed for the better but there are still a lot of people out there who don't know a single thing about it, have probably never watched a fight at all, and think it's brutal

 

[ChaosOverkill]

If people want to argue this makes the Diaz Bros or the Da

you'd be surprised dude. A lot of people older than their 30s, and a lot of non athletic men/men who aren't into combat sports/younger women, don't know a dman thing about the sport, and think it's pretty damn brutal. Especially older folk.

Right and what potential do you see getting any of them to watch other than changing the product in cage? They are not the demographic anyone is working to change over. MMA is aiming at renewable resources in the young. They obviously talk about this, my father does, but they don't matter to MMA.

If they point to this, who are they convincing to change their mind on MMA? They are old enough to know and remember every boxing brawl, did those change them off of boxing?

 

[Γαλάνης]

I agree, they are not going to stunt the growth of the sport at all. This won't hurt the sport. However, the people who do think the sport is full of savages will only think this proves them right. But to be honest, I doubt they will even know about it is I can't see this getting any coverage even in minor sections of ESPN TV/big time print sports papers

 

[Γαλάνης]

If people want to argue this makes the Diaz Bros or the Da


Right and what potential do you see getting any of them to watch other than changing the product in cage? They are not the demographic anyone is working to change over. MMA is aiming at renewable resources in the young. They obviously talk about this, my father does, but they don't matter to MMA.

If they point to this, who are they convincing to change their mind on MMA?

That is not what I'm saying at all. I was just saying that there are a lot of people out there who think MMA is barbaric, and boxing too. They're mostly uninformed people who have not watched and don't care to. They aren't gonna hold MMA back, but they still exist.

 

[ChaosOverkill]

That is not what I'm saying at all. I was just saying that there are a lot of people out there who think MMA is barbaric, and boxing too. They're mostly uninformed people who have not watched and don't care to. They aren't gonna hold MMA back, but they still exist.

Ok fair enough, but I mean't I haven't seen the discussion appear in "RELEVANT" circles and media/demographics is my point.

Yes they exist, there are people that think all sorts of stuff about TV, Movie Stars, WWE, Boxing that will never have any effect on the overall view across demos, just their own demographic which is not a target.

We've had MMA athletes rape and kill people now. Has that had any effect?

In fact we get obscure fading MMA star crime stories once every 3-6 months now, it just doesn't do anything.

Once you've reached thousands of athletes level people lose ability to cast a net over the whole, individuals become individuals and their crimes stay with them unless it is directly linked to being an MMA fighter.

 

[jason73]

 

[ChaosOverkill]

Now I'm not arguing this is positive as a counter to negative.

I'm just arguing that the model established by ZUFFA, they would be MORE MAD, if these were fighters they had no control over because they would lose any collateral hype from it.

WSOF is probably the maddest right now about this. UFC Fighters showed up and laid down a shitshow and they can't take anything from it and get the mess.

If sports fans couldn't get appalled enough to turn off Don Kings products and avoid them, it's a tempest in a tea pot to cry foul at this IMO, the bar is very very low, and once the sports media that wasn't sure about MMA got onboard and all led with Ronda last night, there's no going back, they are hooked in for Ronda and probably Conor now and it's up to Dana to feed them more hype and Jones return is probably up next when it happens.

 

[OhWhopDaChamp]

they are already out of jail

Oh thank goodness! My boo looking so scruffy tho. Thugs. I need those mountain people deported!!! Immediately.

 

[jason73]

 

[ChaosOverkill]

I've heard the Bad for Football label so often in the last year I've heard it more than "What do you want in your coffee?" their attendance and tv numbers will keep going up. They used Domestic Violence incidents as a token cause opportunity to market sensitivity of their product to women fans and potential ones by just getting celebrities to say slogans in front of their logos.

It is far worse to be liable to have the media paint your athletes as wife punching savages, then it is for MMA to be faced with arguing teams spilling over at an MMA event being painted as savages. Context matters and it's not a token issue that is setting forest fires all over social media and attracting checkbook activists to focus all of their power and attention on them. A bunch of MMA athletes dropping slurs about famous people or something and possibly a grown bald man send vulgar tweets at children.

MMA has gotten enough of a foothold I think for most things they will at least hold steady on their gains thus far. The worst threat to MMA is bad cards in key markets.

But, by all means, if someone can provide a link between CNN and the angry hen thing running this story affects MMA, I will take the evidence at face value, just as is, I haven't seen it, just a lot of use of that "Bad for" label each time and after the Strikeforce incident too. I don't think that one had anything effect either. Just a short conversation that makes people nervous and gives people who have an axe to grind another moment of ranting that no one of note with take seriously.

 

[Psychotropic Wanderlust]

fuck, this is some wild shit. looks like the 209 is in full scummy form....like usual.

 

[Psychotropic Wanderlust]

 

[Pitbull9]

Good fucking thugs not even professionals

 

[megatherium]

Nate's probably lucky Khabib didn't eat his heart.

The casino as well, that would have been messy.

 

[Wild]

I wonder if the UFC will cut Nick and Nate?

 

[dacofty]

LOL they arent gonna cut anyone named Diaz

 

[Sweets]

LOL they arent gonna cut anyone named Diaz

Praise Jah!

 

[regular john]

that was the best wrestling I've ever seen from a Diaz bro

 

[Catbutt]

That wasn't me #wut

 

[Wild]

Makes the sport look bad. Fucking signs and chairs being thrown, total chaos in a lobby where tourists are just trying to eat/drink...potentially kids around. Just completely stupid and unnecessary. If Nate & Khabib have such a hard on for one another, push Joe Silva to make the fight and do it inside of the octagon.

 

[OhWhopDaChamp]

Makes the sport look bad. Fucking signs and chairs being thrown, total chaos in a lobby where tourists are just trying to eat/drink...potentially kids around. Just completely stupid and unnecessary. If Nate & Khabib have such a hard on for one another, push Joe Silva to make the fight and do it inside of the octagon.

Pretty sure this fight will happen but idk about being bad for the sport. Don't think mainstream folks know or care about a public scuffle of two UFC fighters that they don't recognize and no women were injured. Don't think it's that big of a deal. Probably a tmz sports mention but that's likely it.

 

[Silverball]

Makes the sport look bad. Fucking signs and chairs being thrown, total chaos in a lobby where tourists are just trying to eat/drink...potentially kids around. Just completely stupid and unnecessary. If Nate & Khabib have such a hard on for one another, push Joe Silva to make the fight and do it inside of the octagon.

I found it welcome relief after the last few weeks of watching UFC fighters being forced to wear those ridiculous looking Reebok slave uniforms....I mean fight kits. Fighters are now being fleeced, literally.

 

[Wild]

I found it welcome relief after the last few weeks of watching UFC fighters being forced to wear those ridiculous looking Reebok slave uniforms....I mean fight kits. Fighters are now being fleeced, literally.

LOL I hear ya, but the sport still has its detractors and this kind of stuff just adds to it. Maybe it wont become national news (as @MelE5150 noted) but it's all over Twitter and Fox Sports has covered it. Any publicity about this type of news is too much.

 

[Silverball]

LOL I hear ya, but the sport still has its detractors and this kind of stuff just adds to it. Maybe it wont become national news (as @MelE5150 noted) but it's all over Twitter and Fox Sports has covered it. Any publicity about this type of news is too much.

I think it depends on where you want to see the sport ultimately end up, and what avenues need to be explored to make that happen. For example, there are some people who will watch those videos from last weekend' WSOF and ask publicly, why are well known (especially in the cases of Nate and Nick Diaz), high paid professional athletes acting this way? I think the assumption amongst non-hardcore fans is that all high level fighters, both MMA and boxing, are paid ridiculously well. Maybe it takes incidents like these to wake up some of those folks up, and maybe even some members of the press? I also don't think that was much of a brawl, but that's kind of beside the point. You could also point to Mike Tyson's behavior in the 90s and argue that it's financially beneficial to have guys that wild in combat sports.

 

[OhWhopDaChamp]

The pushy shovey & Palhares are the best thing that ever happened to WSOF.