General Did Wallace need to get shot?

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    He could've just stayed in the country. But he came back and his bestest buddies took him out.

    Seems like a damn shame to me.
     
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    it’s one of the underlying themes - how those boys don’t know anything other than the game. They rather go back to certain death in Baltimore than do something else. In one episode when they’re going to NY Bodie is surprised that there are different radio stations outside Baltimore; in Season 4 Prop Joe says something like “they think running out of town is going to another neighborhood “; and Bodie himself knows what’ll happen to him but he stands his ground on the corner until the end. Wallace is the same.

    btw that’s a great idea. I could spend the whole quarantine talking about the Wire.
     
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    It's bodie that shot him. He does stand his ground on the corner when it's obvious what's about to happen.

    I'm not from Baltimore, from Nottingham, I had a childhood friend that I drifted apart from. At around age 20 I remember telling him he needed to stop fucking around (by know he had a bad reputation, and was in the local "crew") few years later his homies turned on him and fucked his arm up with a machete. Never understood why he diddnt just leave that dumb lifestyle beforehand
     
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    D barksdales momma is another talking point. She just cares about the game giving her a roof.
     
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    The game is addicting. It's hard to walk away from and go back to being normal. Being around all that crazy shit and excitement and risk and then just have a normal life. Not easy
    And once you start getting good at it, makes it even harder
     
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    I heard that half those goofs on corners ain't even making minimum wage. It's a few rungs up the ladder before you making paper and at this point you hiding from the cops. What's the point?

    El chapo got got. Guy had more money than Davey Crockett.
     
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    Excitement and danger and fun. And ppl look at you like you're the man. Walk into a hotel room w a ball of ice where theres some sketchy ppl u barely know and you're not sure if you're gona get robbed or cuffed. It's a rush. So I heard
     
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    Wallace went in too deep and tried to go back that’s why he “ needed” to get shot. He didn’t stand his ground in corner terms - he freaked out when he saw Omar’s boyfriend all fucked up and agreed to testify. Then he went out begging and pissing himself. He was “weak” according to stupid game standards
     
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    He turned into Apollo creed.
     
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    The most prominent factor IMO is social exclusion. Not every low level corner boy gets to experience the excitement and fun. A lot of The Wire is just standing in the street doing nothing or doing surveillance in a car for hours planning a stick up and it was all written by former police and crime journalists with inside info from former criminals so it's not just some white guys writing about the ghetto from an office with air conditioning.

    not denying that the thrill is a big part of it but when you think about it more deeply you have to consider that most of the time, a lot of the people in the game are bored as fuck. Stripping it down to "excitement and fun" tends to cater to a judgemental narrative where people are blamed individually; IMO a more important facet of it is that they never had a choice in the first place due to social exclusion.

    Of course this is all looking from the outside.
     
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    These guys don't have a retirement plan.

    btw I'm stealing this quote from George Pelecanos who is one of the writers of The Wire and also wrote some legendary books. The quote is from "What It Was" which is his best IMO. But before you read this one you have to read "Right as Rain", "Hell to Pay", "Soul Circus" and "Hard Revolution", in order. it´s a great way to handle the quarantine.
     
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    She is one of the most one dimensional characters, just portrayed as a bitch all the time. Even then you can see the blame in her when McNulty triggers her implying that she doesn't care about D.

    only Orlando was more one dimensional - always with the same plain face looking stupid getting manipulated by the Barksdales.
     
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    is that Namond Brice's mom?

    probably the worst character on the show in terms of huge piece of shit. I hated her lol
     
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    I did not watch the The Wire until last year, no idea what took me so long. But it was so fucking food. Def. one I will rewatch one day down the road
     
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    no we're talking about Brianna Barksdale, D'Angelo's mom. although Namond's mom is Brianna 2.0. Perhaps even more brutal because D at least was real close to the top of the hierarchy.
     
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    oh yeah, I remember her
    you are correct
     
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    it's got endless rewatch value. it's imposible to even recall all the names and pick up all the little details on a first watch. Did you catch Rawls hanging out in a gay bar on Season 2?
     
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    I do remember seeing that! But I don't think they ever did anything with that story, did they?

    I def. will rewatch in a year or two. Was so good. I heard how great it countless times, not sure why I never brought myself to watch prior.
     
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    no they just left that in there for us to wonder. most they did is that at one point you can see a scrabble in the bathroom of the police department saying "Rawls sucks cock" - now is it just a generic insult because he was an asshole? or is it because people knew he was gay? was he really gay?
     
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    Do you guys think Chris fucked snoop?
     
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    Nah.
    Think Chris has been raped before.
    The look on his face says it all. He’s been there. Plus Snoop don’t get down like that. She one of the fellas. It would show dominance over her.
     
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    Somebody was fucking that. For sure
     
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    Some chick. Would you fuck snoop?
     
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    Fuck yea I would. I'd donkey punch her until she could talk like Chris eubank.
     
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