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Zeph

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Hillary supporters say you're racist.... seriously.
From what I've seen, it is the way the laws have been instituted have disproportionately affected black people, by design of the republicans, that's racist. The idea behind it is solid and works fine in other countries where they give everyone a free voter ID.
 

Zeph

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Just the fact people aren't receiving mail in ballots before the election should make heads roll. Let alone the removing of polling stations.
 
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From what I've seen is the way the laws have been imposed have been disproportionately affected black people, by design of the republicans, that's racist. The idea behind it is solid and works fine in other countries where they give everyone a free voter ID.

Our voter IDs are free.

Blacks are less likely to have ID or transportation. So the lack of transportation to get an ID impacts them.

There's nothing in the law targeting them. It's the argument that ID voter fraud is less prevalent than the number of people that can't vote due to lack of identification. Which is probably true at the federal level.

I used to support no voter ID. Once I started looking into smaller races and state-level races, you see that the lack of voter ID can have significant impacts.

So how many local and state level elections are we willing to compromise in order to not disenfranchise people at the national level because they don't have identification?

How many people don't get to vote because we have a cumbersome registration process instead of Simply Having a voter ID?

Lots of people draw their own conclusions.

I'm in Texas with a special affinity for a rural populations that are seriously impacted if we enact a voter ID law. Those are old white people. They likely are voting Trump. I still support voter ID.
 

Zeph

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Our voter IDs are free.

Blacks are less likely to have ID or transportation. So the lack of transportation to get an ID impacts them.

There's nothing in the law targeting them. It's the argument that ID voter fraud is less prevalent than the number of people that can't vote due to lack of identification. Which is probably true at the federal level.

I used to support no voter ID. Once I started looking into smaller races and state-level races, you see that the lack of voter ID can have significant impacts.

So how many local and state level elections are we willing to compromise in order to not disenfranchise people at the national level because they don't have identification?

How many people don't get to vote because we have a cumbersome registration process instead of Simply Having a voter ID?

Lots of people draw their own conclusions.

I'm in Texas with a special affinity for a rural populations that are seriously impacted if we enact a voter ID law. Those are old white people. They likely are voting Trump. I still support voter ID.
Mail it to them?
 
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My neighbor, racist bastard he is, put a trump sign in his yard. I was out raking leaves the other day and he approached me asking me if i'd seen it. I said i had. He asked if i was gonna help make america great again. I asked what that entailed. He said, and i quote, "Well for starters, we'll ship all these fuckin' beaners back to their shithole country!"

 
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My neighbor, racist bastard he is, put a trump sign in his yard. I was out raking leaves the other day and he approached me asking me if i'd seen it. I said i had. He asked if i was gonna help make america great again. I asked what that entailed. He said, and i quote, "Well for starters, we'll ship all these fuckin' beaners back to their shithole country!"

God damn am I glad I don't live in the Bible Belt
 

Zeph

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the issue is that they have to get to the DMV to take a picture in the first place.

I agree though. I have no problem making that a requirement.
Assuming they have/had driving licenses, there should already be their picture in the databases. If they start taking people's high school yearbook photo, make it so the school has to send it in, then you've got most new voters that way. Some will fall through the cracks, sure, but with some pro-action that problem can be seriously minimized. Without taking any steps at all to combat these problems it does seem that it is aimed at disenfranchisement, though.
 
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Assuming they have/had driving licenses, there should already be their picture in the databases. If they start taking people's high school yearbook photo, make it so the school has to send it in, then you've got most new voters that way. Some will fall through the cracks, sure, but with some pro-action that problem can be seriously minimized. Without taking any steps at all to combat these problems it does seem that it is aimed at disenfranchisement, though.


They don't have licenses. That's the heart of it.

If I were playing Devil's Advocate, as the politicians do, I would simply argue that black people make it to high school much less than white people therefore your plan is disenfranchising them.



There is no plan from either side to Mass enroll individuals into identification programs.


Either actually fixing Society or simply driving around photo Vans would be about the only way to do it.
 

Zeph

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They don't have licenses. That's the heart of it.

If I were playing Devil's Advocate, as the politicians do, I would simply argue that black people make it to high school much less than white people therefore your plan is disenfranchising them.



There is no plan from either side to Mass enroll individuals into identification programs.


Either actually fixing Society or simply driving around photo Vans would be about the only way to do it.
But even spitballing we've both come up with more than has even been suggested, afaik.
 

Priziesthorse

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JUST VOTED BROS

WHY DIDNT I GET A FUCKING STICKER?!?!?

OH WELL




#DRAINTHESWAMP
#SUCKMYJOHNSONANDCALLMEJEFFMONSON

 
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A Trump hat and books in the same picture.

Never would've predicted that