Frank Mir notified of potential USADA violation

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WoodenPupa

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Can you really call it "performance enhancing" after his last fight?
You have to check the label carefully. Some products are "dehancers"---they put them on the "antisupplement" shelf, always near the front of the store. See, that's how they trick you.
 

hit4me4

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Frank has always been one of my favorite fighters. After shaving I still do the Frank Mir checking of his cheeks after the Tank Abbot fight to show that he wasn't touched move. He does come off as a douche though, and his TUF showing gave me douche chills at times, but I'll always root for him. That being said, if he was on anything for that last fight he clearly did it wrong. The guy was fat, slow, and had a full on dad bod. How in the hell are you going to test positive when you look like shit?

PS: I came across this a while back, I assume it's him. WTF man, those ear rings and the shaved eyebrows? We would not have gotten along had we gone to the same school.

 

teamquestnorth

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Frank has always been one of my favorite fighters. After shaving I still do the Frank Mir checking of his cheeks after the Tank Abbot fight to show that he wasn't touched move. He does come off as a douche though, and his TUF showing gave me douche chills at times, but I'll always root for him. That being said, if he was on anything for that last fight he clearly did it wrong. The guy was fat, slow, and had a full on dad bod. How in the hell are you going to test positive when you look like shit?

PS: I came across this a while back, I assume it's him. WTF man, those ear rings and the shaved eyebrows? We would not have gotten along had we gone to the same school.

Wow great find on the pic. $100 says the chick on the left turned into a prostitute. Mir with the shaved brows and the hoops. Surprised he didnt have the frosted mushroom bowl haircut to go with it.
 

WoodenPupa

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That being said, if he was on anything for that last fight he clearly did it wrong. The guy was fat, slow, and had a full on dad bod. How in the hell are you going to test positive when you look like shit?
He might have achieved that state from an even worse one. Frank has been fighting a long ass time, been knocked out a lot. His body's been dragged through hell. So, it's possible the PED's got him functional enough to fight, without actually making him physically impressive. He might be beyond the stage where any PED's will work that well for him, at least at moderate doses.
 

Papi Chingon

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It's really not.
So you think anyone in violation of USADA tests can simply contaminate an open supplement and get a pass? You don't think USADA would attempt to obtain a shelf ersion, still sealed, and test that (or several), prior to rendering their decision? Again, I'm not a bright guy, but I'd think it would be a bit harder to plead your case than simply tainting a single supplement jar that is already open.
 

Priziesthorse

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It's really not.
They tested more than just the bottle of supplements Romero was using. USADA then gets a random bottle directly from the manufacturer and tests to see if it's contaminated with the same shit that Romero popped for.
 

stielar

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No, that can't be right. Fighters juiced only in Japan, ufc fighters train only on stakes, eggs and lemonade.
 

Zeph

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They tested more than just the bottle of supplements Romero was using. USADA then gets a random bottle directly from the manufacturer and tests to see if it's contaminated with the same shit that Romero popped for.
That doesn't prove that the one you got wasn't contaminated. Different batches made at different times might have been contaminated. Hell, even the first few from a batch maybe different to the last few if the machine isn't cleaned properly.
 

Ryann Von Doom

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Frank has always been one of my favorite fighters. After shaving I still do the Frank Mir checking of his cheeks after the Tank Abbot fight to show that he wasn't touched move. He does come off as a douche though, and his TUF showing gave me douche chills at times, but I'll always root for him. That being said, if he was on anything for that last fight he clearly did it wrong. The guy was fat, slow, and had a full on dad bod. How in the hell are you going to test positive when you look like shit?

PS: I came across this a while back, I assume it's him. WTF man, those ear rings and the shaved eyebrows? We would not have gotten along had we gone to the same school.

Definitely him. He was a dick in HS.
 

Ghost Bro

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ohh mannnnn time to take a long hard look in the Mir, and come up with a good defence. Tainted sups? Romero is a revolutionary. Sex drugs? Worked for Andy!
I fear it may have been diuretics or some shit...he looked extremely off his game and out of shape would not be surprised if he cut for HW...


Then again...Kimbo was on roids......so if that's anything to go by...
 

Jehannum

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sad news, but if he cheated then fuck him, throw him under Big Nog's bus and feed it a carrot
 

delightone

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Ah shit, this bums me out man, hope it's all bullshit and he can have a few fights to top off the retirement fund.
 

giusti825

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Well after what happened with Romero, if anyone who gets caught doesn't just contaminate their own supplements then send them off to USADA then they are shooting themselves in the foot.
USADA has a lab purchase the supplement and independently test it....they dont just take your batch.....that would be stupid....you never put the defense in charge of excupatory evidence.....ask they guys who prosecuted OJ.....
 

BanMe

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ohh mannnnn time to take a long hard look in the Mir, and come up with a good defence. Tainted sups? Romero is a revolutionary. Sex drugs? Worked for Andy!
I fear it may have been diuretics or some shit...he looked extremely off his game and out of shape would not be surprised if he cut for HW...


Then again...Kimbo was on roids......so if that's anything to go by...
Honestly... I think he really did need the TRT. WHY he needed TRT (past 'roid usage) is not what I'm saying, but I'm saying his body probably DID need the TRT.

Ah shit, this bums me out man, hope it's all bullshit and he can have a few fights to top off the retirement fund.
Also, I agree with this completely. Frank's douchy and probably not a nice person IRL, but I have enjoyed his fights, I respect his ability, and he has been very important to rounding out the game of the HW division (he was doing subs as a HW when all that weight class was was two bulking guys swinging for the fences)
 

Ghost Bro

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Honestly... I think he really did need the TRT. WHY he needed TRT (past 'roid usage) is not what I'm saying, but I'm saying his body probably DID need the TRT.
Yup its kinda sad actually :( I always liked Mir and its a shame he can't really have the opportunity to compete in his full potential..crazy how he can just stop fighting and be a better and healthier "fighter" walking the streets than in the cage. Its especially sad for a vet who doesn't really have that many options left. He probably should retire and go to Rizin or something..I dunno..I'm bummed out with this. Does USADA always say "potential" PED violation? First time I heard that was with Romero...might be wrong though.
 

salamx1976

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He would be great at that as well. He rubs some people the wrong way though. Vocalizing his knowledge of the sport in live events would be awesome if some get past the idea that he speaks a bit arrogantly. I personally don't think he does, but I see why some do.
I agree with you that he would do well commentating, he has done exceptional in the past, I think he would fit in better, maybe not live events but on a show like UFC tonight or ESPN ,breaking down fights and previewing match ups something to that extent . He has a wealth of knowledge and is very well spoken , I think he would serve well in that compactly. I'm a huge fan of Mir and I really don't want to see him KO'd anymore. Its on to the #UFCHoF
 

Ted Williams' head

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Oh nice, the professional SNITCHES strike again. What a great use of money they are. What a sigh of relief that Mark Hunt made it out of their fight ok. If Frank truly was using PED's, he might have killed Hunt with one punch! :rolleyes:

Fuck USADA, leave the athletes alone, let them use whatever they need to to get through the horrors of a professional fight camp and put on a good performance for the fans.

Eat my ass and balls, USADA! Fuckin rats
 

sparkuri

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Imo there is no suprise here.
If old school guys, who've obviously been using throughout their career, are taking headliners for $$ when they know a flag equals a year, we'll see those guys fight once a year, get their payday, do their time, next.....
It boggles my mind when people refer to doping in Pride, when it's always been a sportwide standard.

Ees normal