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Koma

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Wasn’t a great show. FTR made the save for Edge. For some reason Dax got pissed after exchanging some words with Edge and Cash. Ended up leaving the ring in disgust. FTR heel turn incoming.
 

Wiggy

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Moxley is nuts.
This.

I'm not against hardcore necessarily (I will always love old ECW lol), but doing shit like that just to do it is mind-bottling. It's why I don't like guys like Gage.

Mox has a fucking screw loose.
 

marvin eats men

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Doing that spot is retarded enough but doing it on a random weekly show hardly anyone is watching is what makes it truly retarded. Reminds me of all those clips I still see of indie wrestlers taking massive bumps off of ladders for the ten people in attendance.
 

Chrit

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Doing that spot is retarded enough but doing it on a random weekly show hardly anyone is watching is what makes it truly retarded. Reminds me of all those clips I still see of indie wrestlers taking massive bumps off of ladders for the ten people in attendance.
Yeah... a spot like that should be for a PPV and the blowoff for a feud.

Putting something retarded like that on weekly TV is just going to lose you sponsors and advertisers.
 

Wiggy

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Isn't Mox or less calling his own creative right now? I thought I'd heard that...maybe I'm wrong.

My point being that dipshit spot was likely not only his idea, but nobody had the stones to tell him "no". And it's fucking stupid...Mox doing it just to (likely) satisfy his own dumb urges.

I saw something from Matt Cardona a few days ago talking about he'd been revamping his gimmick. He got released by WWE, went to the Indies, and did the whole "King of the Deathmatch" thing for a while. Made himself a bunch of money.

But he also knew (maybe this was after Chelsea got resigned? I dunno) that if AEW or especially WWE ever came knocking, that gimmick was *not* something he'd be able to transfer to tv. So he rode the wave, got the attention, made the $$$, then moved onto something else because it simply just didn't make sense to stick with either long-term or as a legit character-definiing gimmick.

(I'm paraphrasing, but that was more or less his gist.)

Meanwhile, you've got Mox as AEW champ doing that shit on free tv.

Fucking crazy.
 

Koma

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Stupidest motherfucker on the entire planet. Imagine if it would have pierced his spinal cord. What a stupid fucking retard.
He literally had holes in his back after it. When Yuta and the ref were trying to take it off I thought they were just working it. Nope, that thing skewered him.
 

Meohfumado

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He literally had holes in his back after it. When Yuta and the ref were trying to take it off I thought they were just working it. Nope, that thing skewered him.
I think they tried to gimmick the spikes and blunt the points...but that only flattened them out and turned them into barbs which is why when they still penetrated, they couldn't get them out easily.
 

SongExotic2

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My wtf moment was that bird trying to kill mercedes and herself
 

Beezulbubba

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He literally had holes in his back after it. When Yuta and the ref were trying to take it off I thought they were just working it. Nope, that thing skewered him.
I saw it. AEW was actually pushing it on the youtube channel.
 

Beezulbubba

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I think they tried to gimmick the spikes and blunt the points...but that only flattened them out and turned them into barbs which is why when they still penetrated, they couldn't get them out easily.
Yea, the safe way is the Bed of Nails approach they used to have at carnivals, but that is safe because all the nails are hammered in at the same level making it basically a flat surface.
 

SongExotic2

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Bunch of pussies in this thread.

It's only a bit of nail. Galt used to get stabbed every week and he turned out alright.
 

thebearstare

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I regularly watch stevie's videos but after hearing so many wrestling podcasts, I think its really evident why he didnt further in the business.

Hearing and seeing the personality's, creativity and ambition of foley, austin, Prichard etc was pretty eye opening on podcasts. I like stevie richards but man he is brutal on himself and a lot of times I find myself often unimpressed with his takes. Foley and the others were very self critical too, but in a way that drove them to improve.
 

Meohfumado

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It is funny how over guys podcasts differ from mid-card guys podcasts, or in normal sports when you compare legends talking vs scrubs. They are just such a different brand. The mid-carders and scrubs have to be somewhat overly humble, because they are often talking about guys who draw money, or at least more than they did.

Guys like Stevie and Maven (also WWE), Paul Bisonnette (NHL), or goofy-ass Dan Orlovsky (NFL), they have to have a sense of humor about themselves or be brutal about their own performances because the second they are too critical of somebody who was/is more successful/talented/etc. they get that thrown in their face. So they got to approach everything paraphrasing "so I sucked but..." so that their take is taken seriously.

Meanwhile guys like Taker, Austin or Gretzky and Brady can just tell old war stories, and if they ever wade into critique, it's taken as gospel cause of who they are even if their wrong. Good ol' survivor bias at work.
 

thebearstare

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It is funny how over guys podcasts differ from mid-card guys podcasts, or in normal sports when you compare legends talking vs scrubs. They are just such a different brand. The mid-carders and scrubs have to be somewhat overly humble, because they are often talking about guys who draw money, or at least more than they did.

Guys like Stevie and Maven (also WWE), Paul Bisonnette (NHL), or goofy-ass Dan Orlovsky (NFL), they have to have a sense of humor about themselves or be brutal about their own performances because the second they are too critical of somebody who was/is more successful/talented/etc. they get that thrown in their face. So they got to approach everything paraphrasing "so I sucked but..." so that their take is taken seriously.

Meanwhile guys like Taker, Austin or Gretzky and Brady can just tell old war stories, and if they ever wade into critique, it's taken as gospel cause of who they are even if their wrong. Good ol' survivor bias at work.

Very true but man ive seen some clips of stevie's work were stevie just seriously starts beating himself up and even the interviewer was pointing it out.

Foley and others were VERY self critical of themselves but the way it propelled them to improve their craft.
Love or hate prichard but those early years of the podcast it was very evident why he had been so successful in the business for decades with his drive, carny-ness and hustle on fill display making the show a must listen. Stevie Richards is very defeatist over everything in contrast. I for sure get the complaints though that in the business your value as a human being is decided by your place on the card.
 

Meohfumado

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Very true but man ive seen some clips of stevie's work were stevie just seriously starts beating himself up and even the interviewer was pointing it out.

Foley and others were VERY self critical of themselves but the way it propelled them to improve their craft.
Love or hate prichard but those early years of the podcast it was very evident why he had been so successful in the business for decades with his drive, carny-ness and hustle on fill display making the show a must listen. Stevie Richards is very defeatist over everything in contrast. I for sure get the complaints though that in the business your value as a human being is decided by your place on the card.
Yeah Stevie is a bit hard on himself, but at least he doesn't seem super bitter about his career despite being remembered mostly for that chair shot on JBL. A lot of the other guys online seem mad-mad, but then again, some dealt with some serious carny bullshit, so I guess they have a reason.

Like Rene Dupree just last month calling out Bob Holly for 20-year-old heat.


Probably his best promo ever, lol

Course Holly was a notorious prick, but Dupree seems to be still fuming...although that just might be a side-effect of living in Winnipeg.

Still, his normal show even with other guys on, he seems rather dour and has a rather large axe to grind.