Just spent an hour on the phone with Amazon

[BeardOfKnowledge]

Really? Took the one exception out oy entire post? Napping matters when forced to do rotating shifts, essentially jog lap for 4 hour spurts, and then not get an hour so you can a break offsite or even your car.


You've completely mischaracterized the post.

I was just joking around, but truth be told, most of the working class is expected to work in fairly similar conditions.

 

[Deleted member 1]

I was just joking around, but truth be told, most of the working class is expected to work in fairly similar conditions.

That's what I thought when I first heard about it.

I don't think it's true though.

Janitors, Walmart cashiers, food service employees, etc. All have the ability to not physically exert themselves at the level an Amazon picker must.

Those that are physically exerting themselves hard and things like a factory typically are employed or unionized and have some job security.

Amazon's warehouse fulfillment jobs are the perfect combination of garbage job. Low pay, hard work, near impossible expectations. And because you are a temporary worker no allegiance and response for you killing yourself. The entire process is outsourced to be a third party company. In exchange Amazon simply says hey that's not are doing. Someone else is doing the staffing.

Again this is just part of the process of chasing cost to the bottom and no accountability for online fulfillment. It's not just Amazon, but given that the plurality of all online spending happens via Amazon at this point they shoulder the big blame for the culture they continue to push.

 

[BeardOfKnowledge]

That's what I thought when I first heard about it.

I don't think it's true though.

Janitors, Walmart cashiers, food service employees, etc. All have the ability to not physically exert themselves at the level an Amazon picker must.

Those that are physically exerting themselves hard and things like a factory typically are employed or unionized and have some job security.

Amazon's warehouse fulfillment jobs are the perfect combination of garbage job. Low pay, hard work, near impossible expectations. And because you are a temporary worker no allegiance and response for you killing yourself. The entire process is outsourced to be a third party company. In exchange Amazon simply says hey that's not are doing. Someone else is doing the staffing.

Again this is just part of the process of chasing cost to the bottom and no accountability for online fulfillment. It's not just Amazon, but given that the plurality of all online spending happens via Amazon at this point they shoulder the big blame for the culture they continue to push.

People who put up new build houses or landscape are expected to physically exert themselves at a high pace for shit pay and no job security. It's a sadly commonplace practice with entry level tradespeople, it's just starting to seep its way into other areas. Like you said, race to the bottom. As long as people prioritize their own bank accounts and trying to save a buck over what's best for the long term, it's a trend that will continue.

 

[BeardOfKnowledge]

For what it's worth @STANDWITHRAND I think mid day naps should be an accepted practice for anyone who does manual labor, I also think all lunch hours should be for a minimum of 60 minutes. I also favor a 4 day work week, but that'll never happen in cash driven North America.

 

[Ryann Von Doom]

That's what I thought when I first heard about it.

I don't think it's true though.

Janitors, Walmart cashiers, food service employees, etc. All have the ability to not physically exert themselves at the level an Amazon picker must.

Those that are physically exerting themselves hard and things like a factory typically are employed or unionized and have some job security.

Amazon's warehouse fulfillment jobs are the perfect combination of garbage job. Low pay, hard work, near impossible expectations. And because you are a temporary worker no allegiance and response for you killing yourself. The entire process is outsourced to be a third party company. In exchange Amazon simply says hey that's not are doing. Someone else is doing the staffing.

Again this is just part of the process of chasing cost to the bottom and no accountability for online fulfillment. It's not just Amazon, but given that the plurality of all online spending happens via Amazon at this point they shoulder the big blame for the culture they continue to push.

I'm curious, have you ever worked a janitorial job before? If not, you're definitely ignorant of just how hard they work and for shitty pay on top of it.

 

[Hong Kong Phooey]

were doing well on amazon