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Robbie Hart

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Feb 13, 2015
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Just watched “To catch a smuggler” and some youngster had Kratom on him and the officer said it’s currently legal in 46 states and the youngster said “what’s the issue then?”
Officer said the government wants to make it illegal anywhere

Youngster “why”

Officer “ because it helps you stay off prescription drugs”

My thought process:

Me: “So what’s the issue?”

Me: “oh, pharma pays big money to keep you addicted
 

Wiggy

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Watch the documentary "A Leaf of Faith" made by Chris Bell.

He's the same guy that made the "Bigger, Stronger, Faster" steroids docu, and "Prescription Thugs" docu about opiods. In fact, him making Prescription Thugs is what got him into kratom and then making A Leaf of Faith. He & his brother Mark (who makes the Sling Shot) later would start their own kratom company.

Kratom has a ton of excellent uses, the least of which is pain alleviation.

I've used it off & on for years for nootropic style benefits.
 

Robbie Hart

All Kamala Voters Are Born Losers, Ha Ha Ha
Feb 13, 2015
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Watch the documentary "A Leaf of Faith" made by Chris Bell.

He's the same guy that made the "Bigger, Stronger, Faster" steroids docu, and "Prescription Thugs" docu about opiods. In fact, him making Prescription Thugs is what got him into kratom and then making A Leaf of Faith. He & his brother Mark (who makes the Sling Shot) later would start their own kratom company.

Kratom has a ton of excellent uses, the least of which is pain alleviation.

I've used it off & on for years for nootropic style benefits.
Man, I’m serious about this when I ask
I have frontal lobe damage from a car accident and my mind is not the same and my memory is fukt, short term is the worst.

what’s the best I could take to get some help?

I’ve been through all kinds of treatments and offered hyperbaric with IV’s but I refused them as I don’t know the truth behind it other than one doctor trying to make money over their competitors
 

Wiggy

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Man, I’m serious about this when I ask
I have frontal lobe damage from a car accident and my mind is not the same and my memory is fukt, short term is the worst.

what’s the best I could take to get some help?

I’ve been through all kinds of treatments and offered hyperbaric with IV’s but I refused them as I don’t know the truth behind it other than one doctor trying to make money over their competitors
Shit dude...that sounds rough. I can't even imagine. I'm sorry you have to deal with that.

That said, I wish I could offer you some advice, but I can't. I would have no idea what to recommend for something like that.

The thing about kratom is that there are about a gajillion combinations and many of them can seemingly contradict each other.

You've got certain colors that are supposed to be best for one thing. Then certain strains best for another thing. Then certain dosages best for another thing.

Like lower dosages (say 5g or less) are supposed to be best for mental clarity and / or energy, while higher dosages (say 15g or more) are supposed to be for pain. Yet there are some strains & colors that if you take a lower dosage, it supposedly chills you out.

Green veins are supposed to be good for energy, white for mental clarity (might have mixed those two up), and red for pain. Srains like maeng da or bali are good for the cognitive benefits, so it would make sense to take say green or white versions of those, but you can also get a red version (red is supposedly more for pain).

So what would happen if you took a low dosage (better for cognitive) red (better for pain) maeng da (better for cognitive)?

See what I mean? You could go on and on.

And that's not taking gold veins into account or many of the less popular strains. And some outlets create their own mixtures.

The best I can recommend is to do a bunch of research and ask around. When I first got interested in kratom several years ago, there wasn't much more than a few random forum threads here & there. At the time, they'd all tell you "you gotta experiment and see what works for you". I hated the advice, but after trying some, I get why it was more or less the de facto response.

Luckily, there is a LOT more info on kratom online now, so you could do a bit of digging.

I would tell you to NOT get kratom from a local smoke shop, gas station, or any of that other shit. Who know what you're actually getting. I've actually even noticed differences in apparent potency from the different places I get it from online.

I get mine now from Amazing Botanicals. They're cheap, their stuff has always been good quality (at least for me), and shipping has always been quick.

Sorry I can't really offer more than that unless you wanna know what I've personally taken, though I don't think it would much help or apply in your situation.
 

Robbie Hart

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Feb 13, 2015
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Shit dude...that sounds rough. I can't even imagine. I'm sorry you have to deal with that.

That said, I wish I could offer you some advice, but I can't. I would have no idea what to recommend for something like that.

The thing about kratom is that there are about a gajillion combinations and many of them can seemingly contradict each other.

You've got certain colors that are supposed to be best for one thing. Then certain strains best for another thing. Then certain dosages best for another thing.

Like lower dosages (say 5g or less) are supposed to be best for mental clarity and / or energy, while higher dosages (say 15g or more) are supposed to be for pain. Yet there are some strains & colors that if you take a lower dosage, it supposedly chills you out.

Green veins are supposed to be good for energy, white for mental clarity (might have mixed those two up), and red for pain. Srains like maeng da or bali are good for the cognitive benefits, so it would make sense to take say green or white versions of those, but you can also get a red version (red is supposedly more for pain).

So what would happen if you took a low dosage (better for cognitive) red (better for pain) maeng da (better for cognitive)?

See what I mean? You could go on and on.

And that's not taking gold veins into account or many of the less popular strains. And some outlets create their own mixtures.

The best I can recommend is to do a bunch of research and ask around. When I first got interested in kratom several years ago, there wasn't much more than a few random forum threads here & there. At the time, they'd all tell you "you gotta experiment and see what works for you". I hated the advice, but after trying some, I get why it was more or less the de facto response.

Luckily, there is a LOT more info on kratom online now, so you could do a bit of digging.

I would tell you to NOT get kratom from a local smoke shop, gas station, or any of that other shit. Who know what you're actually getting. I've actually even noticed differences in apparent potency from the different places I get it from online.

I get mine now from Amazing Botanicals. They're cheap, their stuff has always been good quality (at least for me), and shipping has always been quick.

Sorry I can't really offer more than that unless you wanna know what I've personally taken, though I don't think it would much help or apply in your situation.
Golden information, thank you me friend

It will be paid back twice at some point
 

MountainMedic

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You’re now on the unfortunate radar of my mine for being a smart ass
Lol, wasn't kidding. I've never tried the stuff. Don't know much about it except a thread years ago on the old OG.

Had a weird situation once where a new flight medic left some empty packages in the sleep room.
All I really knew was some people get high from it and some people use it as a way to deal with an opioid addiction.
Thos was a real pickle, we are responsible for alot of narcotics, down to the micrograms. Fucking up "the count" can literally shut down a program. And dealing with providers that divert (steal) drugs is a complete nightmare.

So I'm curious what people have to say in this thread.
 

Wiggy

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Oct 23, 2015
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Lol, wasn't kidding. I've never tried the stuff. Don't know much about it except a thread years ago on the old OG.

Had a weird situation once where a new flight medic left some empty packages in the sleep room.
All I really knew was some people get high from it and some people use it as a way to deal with an opioid addiction.
Thos was a real pickle, we are responsible for alot of narcotics, down to the micrograms. Fucking up "the count" can literally shut down a program. And dealing with providers that divert (steal) drugs is a complete nightmare.

So I'm curious what people have to say in this thread.
re people getting high from it:

I think a LOT of people are full of shit - I've heard a ton of ludicrous stories, like people getting uncontrollably "addicted" to it after taking it just once.

I'm sorry (not really), but zero part of me believes that.

It'd be like saying someone drank a six-pack of beer and instantly became an alcoholic.
 

MountainMedic

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Sep 28, 2017
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re people getting high from it:

I think a LOT of people are full of shit - I've heard a ton of ludicrous stories, like people getting uncontrollably "addicted" to it after taking it just once.

I'm sorry (not really), but zero part of me believes that.

It'd be like saying someone drank a six-pack of beer and instantly became an alcoholic.
I played it pretty low key, I was her supervisor and if I talked to her it would become official whether I wanted it that way or not. She was pretty friendly with my RN partner. So first I asked her if she'd ever seen anything concerning about the medic in question. She said no and I trusted my partner. I showed her what I found and told her to ask about why this stuff was inside my base.
She took another job 30 days later.
 

Robbie Hart

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Feb 13, 2015
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Lol, wasn't kidding. I've never tried the stuff. Don't know much about it except a thread years ago on the old OG.

Had a weird situation once where a new flight medic left some empty packages in the sleep room.
All I really knew was some people get high from it and some people use it as a way to deal with an opioid addiction.
Thos was a real pickle, we are responsible for alot of narcotics, down to the micrograms. Fucking up "the count" can literally shut down a program. And dealing with providers that divert (steal) drugs is a complete nightmare.

So I'm curious what people have to say in this thread.
Thanks broseph

Though you’re now always on the radar kind of like potentially violent people on the hospital list.
You will always have a placard on your room.
 
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kvr28

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Nov 22, 2015
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Lol, wasn't kidding. I've never tried the stuff. Don't know much about it except a thread years ago on the old OG.
I remember that thread, a lot of members that were addicted to opiates said it helped them get off the habit, was a lot of information in it.
 

vad

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I once heard Stavros refer to it as O'Dheroin (as in the beer O'Douls) because it was weak heroin. Never tried it but Ive read both good and bad about it. Seems like its a thing that could become a vice for sure.
 

kvr28

I am the Greengo
Nov 22, 2015
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I once heard Stavros refer to it as O'Dheroin (as in the beer O'Douls) because it was weak heroin. Never tried it but Ive read both good and bad about it. Seems like its a thing that could become a vice for sure.
Interesting analogy, I always heard it used the same neural receptors as opiates do so makes sense