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KWingJitsu

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I made this same thread on the other shithole site when they signed Howard and Nash. I was mocked and laughed at, but when all was said and done, I was right. Lakers had no continuity before, and adding a diva like James isn't going to help.
Weak troll is weak.....
 

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I too have tried to extinguish it from my memory but yes he did


what'd you think of Mike Brown wanting to use one of the greatest pick n roll ball handlers in history to run the Princeton motion offense? I honestly thought he was joking when he said that
 

Mix6APlix

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I do however reserve the right to change this if they sign another good player like Kawhi or Cousins
 

tang

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LeBron James almost singlehandedly won Cleveland a championship with him, Kevin Love, and a JV squad... And you're saying that he won't lead a team past 50 wins????
That is true but Western Conference is different story. If ur part of the west, u’d be playing more west teams and all the powerhouses arw in the west. Not to mention Warriors are in the same pacific division.

Maybe 2nd season they can win 50 but also depends on who the Lakers get as row players and how that chemistry works. Lebron is known to be ball-hog and everyone has to work around him (which he deserves to be) but as far as team chemistry, he can’t control that
 

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Is Luke Walton the right coach for a 'Lebron' caliber player?

Or does he get washed out in a 3-way power struggle with Lebron and LaVar?
 

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Is Luke Walton the right coach for a 'Lebron' caliber player?

Or does he get washed out in a 3-way power struggle with Lebron and LaVar?
He's had the run with the Warriors when Kerr was out, so he's used to it. Worst case scenario he's better than Ty Lue, he won 35 with the Lakers last year with 2 rookies playing major roles, along with a 2nd year player (Ingram) who's 20 that has great potential but graded out as the worst player in the league his rookie year. I'm not sure what Lue did other than roll the ball out to James, watching Kyrie w/ Lebron off the floor in Cleveland vs. what he was doing in Boston last year was night & day.

that said I'm not sure what the front office is doing, they've signed Rondo & Lance Stephenson now who both can't shoot. They need shooters
 

Tiiimmmaaayyy

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you must've watched a lot of him..

Leonard is a 6-7 small forward, shoots 39% from 3 & has a 55% effective field goal %, & he's the best defender in the league. Rose is none of those things & you couldn't pick a much worse player to use as a player comp to Kawhi
I stand by it. Rose has slipped the past couple of years, but during his MVP times his shooting percentages were close to those. Not quite as high, but close. It's not that I think he is a bad player, not at all. I just wouldn't count on him to be a cornerstone of a franchise. Kawhi's numbers have declined a bit too. I suspect that will continue. You are right about one thing in your sarcasm though, I haven't watched him a lot. No one did this year because even though he was cleared by the doctors he chose to sit out and not be part of his team. That's not a guy I want to depend on.
 
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I stand by it. Rose has slipped the past couple of years, but during his MVP times his shooting percentages were close to those. Not quite as high, but close. It's not that I think he is a bad player, not at all. I just wouldn't count on him to be a cornerstone of a franchise. Kawhi's numbers have declined a bit too. I suspect that will continue. You are right about one thing in your sarcasm though, I haven't watched him a lot. No one did this year because even though he was cleared by the doctors he chose to sit out and not be part of his team. That's not a guy I want to depend on.
you do realize he's led a team to a title already, right?

Those were Kawhi's career numbers that've gotten better, in Rose's MVP year he shot 33% from 3 & had an effective FG % of 48%, & has never been considered anywhere close to the best defender in the league. That's not close to what Kawhi is
 

Tiiimmmaaayyy

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you do realize he's led a team to a title already, right?

Those were Kawhi's career numbers that've gotten better, in Rose's MVP year he shot 33% from 3 & had an effective FG % of 48%, & has never been considered anywhere close to the best defender in the league. That's not close to what Kawhi is
I don't claim to be the biggest NBA fan or an expert, however, my eye test tells me that he was part of a great system and not a top 5 player in the league. He was a big part of the championship team, but he had lots of help. You seem to be most hung up on the Rose comparison. Throw that out if you want. I think they both rely far too much on pure athleticism, but we can agree to disagree. I did say from the start he is a sold defender. I openly admit when I am wrong. I have been wrong many times and I could be again, but in my opinion he isn't among the best of the best. If he goes on to sign with the Lakers or not, I still maintain that we will see a decline in his numbers. One thing that I won't change my opinion is that he isn't a good teammate. Even if he did sit out while being cleared, he should have been part of his team and help cheer them on. Without going back and looking it up, I think Rose was with his team when he was "injured".
 

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I don't claim to be the biggest NBA fan or an expert, however, my eye test tells me that he was part of a great system and not a top 5 player in the league. He was a big part of the championship team, but he had lots of help. You seem to be most hung up on the Rose comparison. Throw that out if you want. I think they both rely far too much on pure athleticism, but we can agree to disagree. I did say from the start he is a sold defender. I openly admit when I am wrong. I have been wrong many times and I could be again, but in my opinion he isn't among the best of the best. If he goes on to sign with the Lakers or not, I still maintain that we will see a decline in his numbers. One thing that I won't change my opinion is that he isn't a good teammate. Even if he did sit out while being cleared, he should have been part of his team and help cheer them on. Without going back and looking it up, I think Rose was with his team when he was "injured".
He wasn't just a big part, he was the MVP of a championship team, one that the rest of his teammates acknowledged was the best player on that team after that finals.

His athleticism allows him to have a high ceiling as a player, but frankly it's the least impressive part of his game. He's almost always in the correct position, almost always makes the correct read on when to help on defense, almost always makes the correct pass, rarely takes a bad shot, etc. He's one of the smartest players in the league.

He's also more than a solid defender, he's the best defender in the league. Nearly all advanced stats in the NBA are imperfect due to how dynamic of a game it is, you have to weigh them all together to get a great picture of where a player should be ranked. In these, from Leonard's last healthy season, the offensive measure is biased towards primary ball handlers & centers who mainly shoot from close range, & the defensive measure is biased towards centers who protect the rim & grab rebounds which end other team's possessions, & Leonard still comes up aces.




Leonard's injury was misdiagnosed by the Spurs' team doctor, he went to another doctor who handles several sports teams who said he was still injured & wouldn't clear him. While out the Spurs' GM, coach, & several players called him out & insulted him. I can understand why he wasn't feeling the love & would've rather received treatment from the doctor that diagnosed him correctly instead of being in San Antonio being treated by the doctor that got it wrong. That team still wants to mend fences & sign him to a $200 million dollar contract. I think they know what they have & how good of a teammate he is
 

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I was flipping around the radio on the way back from the gym this morning & landed on Clay Travis' radio show. He was trying to put together a team of all stars from the eastern conference that could compete with the Warriors. He was deciding between Kevin Love & Demar DeRozen at power forward, while DeRozen is actually a shooting guard. I think I figured out where some of you guys get you NBA knowledge