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Pitbull9

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ok if you ever come across one i'd like to see it. i did a lot of research on it and couldn't find anything solid. there have been many cases of doctors prescribing clomid for low t off label i would think there would be more info if something as serious as cancer was a side effect.
I know my endo wanted me to use it to try and kickstart my natural T again but i dont want to go that route. I might have to when i want to have kids but HCG and HMG should be able to do the trick.
 
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do you have any studies to support that? all i can find is ovarian cancer in women.

Clomid is a SERM -- selective estrogen receptor modulator.
It blocks some receptors and not others. The increased risk seems to be this unopposed estrogen shift and adding progesterone to the mix might decreased this risk.

For men, I have no idea the studies on risk. I use clomid sometimes in practice as I do a lot of women's health and OB. Clomid is sued in men for very specific issues, but not stuff I regular interact with.
 

teamquestnorth

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i may or may not have known a guy who has taken it for 6 months. went from ~450 to 675 total test and ~9 free test 13. a blood test before, one after 3 months, one after 6 months. felt better. but he is looking to work with a doctor and do real trt now. 10mg each day. there is a good amount of bro science and real studies out there.
Ive heard the same. I think Im going to try it out for 30 days.
 

Sheepdog

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I'm still not. The jurys out and the data just isn't there yet. They might be a panacea but we dont know..

I bet hes on well more than that. When these guys get popped for one thing I always assume that's just what came up.
In Australia there was an entire professional football team on peptides, including almost certainly GHRP-6. The changes in body types across the board of 30+ players is as much sensible evidence as you will ever need to know that peptides like GHRP-6 have a massive effect.

Now Victor Conte for example questions whether peptides are useful in sporting performance alone, but does not question their value if used in conjunction with other PEDs.
 

Howard Moon

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He's still subject to random testing and the whereabouts program as long as he's under UFC contract. Even if suspended through the program.
That seems fucked up. He got caught and he's paying the price(rightfully so). He shouldn't have to report his every move for 2 years and be forced to provide samples when he can't even fight. This does not seem like something an independent contractor would have to do.
 
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Always boggles my mind why humans continue to fuck up their bodies' natural ability to function properly and then take "supplements" to try and remedy while now benefitting from the bad side effects of the "remedy."

Stay away from this crap guys, come on!
 

Papi Chingon

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Mma junkie fucked it up and said it was growth hormone too

UFC's Chad Mendes receives 2-year USADA suspension (Updated)

Pitbull9 @Pitbull3744 what is GHRC-6 (hexapeptide) and how effective is it?
It's a waste of money. It does little and if you do indeed see results it's because you have been taking it for a very long time. 3 months on ghrp2 or 6 and there are no differences. 1 year, maybe, but that's 2 shots a day and not worth it for the hassle and money. There are far more effective options out there if you truly want results. He's got to feel pretty dumb about this suspension s for a bullshit peptide since he could have been taking hgh and gotten real results/benefits, plus the same suspension.
 

Papi Chingon

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Sure. Its always better to taper off something then to go cold turkey especially with these types of drugs.
If we are still talking peptides, there is no reason to taper. It only increases the gh pulses for a short time (like 30 minutes), which is why it isnt effective. You feel the same when you stop. There is also no pct.
 

Pitbull9

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If we are still talking peptides, there is no reason to taper. It only increases the gh pulses for a short time (like 30 minutes), which is why it isnt effective. You feel the same when you stop. There is also no pct.
Very true I thought we were talking about anabolics but I guess I shouldn't known since we were talking about peptides lol
 

Papi Chingon

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Very true I thought we were talking about anabolics but I guess I shouldn't known since we were talking about peptides lol
The thread has gone back and forth between peptides and anabolic (and even to hgh), so I couldn't tell what you were referring to lol.
 

DFW4L

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i may or may not have known a guy
lmao....do you think the DEA trolls this site looking for people admitting to having known a guy who did some drugs?

'FUCK, I almost had this Larry guy on TMMAC.com dry snitching on one of his buddies for taking Clomid, but he pulled the old 'may' card...sneaky bastard'

-Agent Williams at DEA HQ
 

Left Hook Larry

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lmao....do you think the DEA trolls this site looking for people admitting to having known a guy who did some drugs?

'FUCK, I almost had this Larry guy on TMMAC.com dry snitching on one of his buddies for taking Clomid, but he pulled the old 'may' card...sneaky bastard'

-Agent Williams at DEA HQ


LMAO damn near spit out my water reading that. hey doesnt hurt to add in a few extra words
 

Leigh

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Jan 26, 2015
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Always boggles my mind why humans continue to fuck up their bodies' natural ability to function properly and then take "supplements" to try and remedy while now benefitting from the bad side effects of the "remedy."

Stay away from this crap guys, come on!
I remember a study about 20 years ago, asking olympic athletes if they would use drugs if it meant they would win gold but never be able to compete after 5 years. Most said yes.

They were then asked if they would use drugs if it meant they won gold but they would die after 5 years.

Most still said yes.

Some (most?) athletes have a different thought process. Recognition in their sport is the sole purpose of their life and they will do anything to achieve success.
 

DFW4L

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Seems like a potential hotspot to pick up chicks
You stick to the locations where the low self-esteem ones are too, eh?

MY MAN...

we should hit up an AA meeting or psych ward together sometime