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Shinkicker

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Jan 30, 2016
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No idea. I don't speak Matrix.
Neither do I. And in an effort to understand information delivered the author has to speak to his audience. And the audience has to consider the author. With a message like this, I'd think any intelligent person would ask, "is this guy just attention whoring?"
 

Sheepdog

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Neither do I. And in an effort to understand information delivered the author has to speak to his audience. And the audience has to consider the author. With a message like this, I'd think any intelligent person would ask, "is this guy just attention whoring?"
Maybe. I don't really care about these tweets until we actually know what they mean, I was just talking about Assange in general.
 

IschKabibble

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Jan 15, 2015
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Hmm...


View: https://twitter.com/AnonScan/status/948166317584125953


John Kiriakou (born August 9, 1964) is a columnist with Reader Supported News.

He was a CIA analyst and case officer, senior investigator for the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, counterterrorism consultant for ABC News,[1] and author.[2][3] He was the first U.S. government official to confirm in December 2007 that waterboarding was used to interrogate Al Qaeda prisoners, which he described as torture.[4][5] On October 22, 2012, Kiriakou pleaded guilty to disclosing the identity of a fellow CIA officer. He was the first CIA officer to be convicted for passing classified information to a reporter, although the reporter did not publish the name of the operative.[6] He was sentenced to 30 months in prison on January 25, 2013, and served his term from February 28, 2013, until February 3, 2015, at the low-security Federal correctional facility near Loretto, Pennsylvania.[7]

John Kiriakou - Wikipedia
 

Shinkicker

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Maybe. I don't really care about these tweets until we actually know what they mean, I was just talking about Assange in general.
So are you suggesting that we just take the information without considering the source?
 

Splinty

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Dec 31, 2014
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Huge, if true

Of course it's true. Assange is a walking set of contradictions.

Have you watched Risk? He admits as much, attributing his need to sacrifice ideals for his own survival. That's straight from him. "Ruthlessly pragmatic".

His own staff relationship are often strained as the guy has a bit of a Messiah complex that gets in the way of WikiLeaks as an organization being front and center.

It's obvious he has wants for transparency but they are completely at odds with his need to simultaneously be the face...AND the not arrested face...of the organization. He's a liability as the lightning rod instead of there being a nebulous organization.
 

Splinty

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Dec 31, 2014
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The smear campaign against Assange is obvious and shouldn't be bought into. It's one thing to talk about the shifty shit he pulls like editing the 'Collateral Murder' video
Yeah that's what I did.

Whether or not he is a rapist cult member or not is irrelevant, what matters is whether the information he presents is valid or not.

I'm gonna side step that I disagree with that premise and just point out that you're coming after the wrong person if that's your beef. I just learned about his childhood and no one has brought up his rape charges.

Those who have an interest in silencing people like Assange want people to focus on his personal flaws, not the information he publishes.

Who wants to silence him in this thread?
His forced personality is in the way of the information WikiLeaks publishes. That's the position I have. WikiLeaks would be better with him out of the spotlight and his controversial activities and personality removed from being such a significant liability.
 

Ted Williams' head

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Sep 23, 2015
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Of course it's true. Assange is a walking set of contradictions.

Have you watched Risk? He admits as much, attributing his need to sacrifice ideals for his own survival. That's straight from him. "Ruthlessly pragmatic".

His own staff relationship are often strained as the guy has a bit of a Messiah complex that gets in the way of WikiLeaks as an organization being front and center.

It's obvious he has wants for transparency but they are completely at odds with his need to simultaneously be the face...AND the not arrested face...of the organization. He's a liability as the lightning rod instead of there being a nebulous organization.
I dunno, all this sounds like something Obama would say about him.
 

Sheepdog

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Dec 1, 2015
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Yeah that's what I did.




I'm gonna side step that I disagree with that premise and just point out that you're coming after the wrong person if that's your beef. I just learned about his childhood and no one has brought up his rape charges.




Who wants to silence him in this thread?
His forced personality is in the way of the information WikiLeaks publishes. That's the position I have. WikiLeaks would be better with him out of the spotlight and his controversial activities and personality removed from being such a significant liability.
Your first comment was 'he's always been about himself'. So not only did you begin with an attack but an asinine one - as if every other journalist/publisher are only interested in the greater good and not themselves. Information delivered by a cunt for cunty reasons can still be true.

And I don't think it's completely true that's it's all about himself. Sure, he's clearly motivated by his own fame. But his agenda is also pretty clear - he's trying to hurt western governments any way he can.
 

Ted Williams' head

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Neither do I. And in an effort to understand information delivered the author has to speak to his audience. And the audience has to consider the author. With a message like this, I'd think any intelligent person would ask, "is this guy just attention whoring?"
In theory, you're right. In theory....
 

Splinty

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. Information delivered by a cunt for cunty reasons can still be true.
So let me get this straight. As long as I give a nod that of the portions of releases that are true, I'm all clear to just call him a cunt? But if I shorthand a multiyear history of self-promotion conflicting with truth, while citing all the way back to the most popular "leak", then I am:

conditioned to respond immediately with a personal attack.
you are partisan pundit spewing out prepared talking points.
etc?

For some reason, I am the target of yours and that really set you off. Even attributing others' posts to me and coming after me personally?

And yet:

Sure, he's clearly motivated by his own fame.
Exactly my point.

So what are you arguing with me for?

I'll be sure to just call him a cunt from now on instead of pointing out his long public history of conflicting (self-)motivations that should make one consider the context and "truth" of Wikileaks releases. Lies by omission are still lies.

But his agenda is also pretty clear - he's trying to hurt western governments any way he can.
Yeah no shit. That's part of the bias in his "pragmatic ruthlessness" that is clearly NOT what wikileaks mission is. Authoritarian governments now off limits because Assange is in bed with them?

WikiLeaks is a not-for-profit media organisation. Our goal is to bring important news and information to the public. We provide an innovative, secure and anonymous way for sources to leak information to our journalists (our electronic drop box). One of our most important activities is to publish original source material alongside our news stories so readers and historians alike can see evidence of the truth.
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Today, with authoritarian governments in power in much of the world, increasing authoritarian tendencies in democratic governments, and increasing amounts of power vested in unaccountable corporations, the need for openness and transparency is greater than ever. WikiLeaks interest is the revelation of the truth. Unlike the covert activities of state intelligence agencies, as a media publisher WikiLeaks relies upon the power of overt fact to enable and empower citizens to bring feared and corrupt governments and corporations to justice.


And I don't think it's completely true that's it's all about himself.

But really, that's all you had to say and we could have discussed the myriad of instances in which Assange is about Assange and lack of incidents when Wikileaks gets to take priority over Assange's cult of personality he pushes. Or vice versa if you have that too.
 

Enock-O-Lypse Now!

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I still believe the real Julian was killed around 10-16-2016 when the real deadman switch was released:


View: https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/787777344740163584


View: https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/787781046519693316


View: https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/787781519951720449



everything posted online (twitter) or CVPR video manipulated content released after that date (10-16-2016) is just state sponsored propaganda.
*Tink *Tink

And who deleted the original posts?