Nick Diaz hires law firm to fight 'irregularities' in UFC 183 drug test results

[Deleted member 1]

I disagree, Dougie. I think that's a stretch. It would have no more effect on performance than caffeine or OTC drugs would.

Excess caffeine and other OTC drugs ARE banned though. And I'll skip Eddie Bravo and Joe Rogan's opinion that weed is a performance enhancer...

I think the main reason to ban marijuana is in the same vein as alcohol - fighter safety. Diaz could have smoked that week and been under the line. He almost surely smoked that day.
If he is intoxicated, he is a danger to himself. The athletic commission is responsible for making sure fighters go in the cage under all reasonable precautions.

For everyone that says don't ban nick getting high, can he get drunk before the match? What happens when an intoxicated fighter is seriously injured and we have to defend MMA as not being as dangerous as other sports?

 

[Deleted member 1]

That rule should be changed,
the method of testing needs to change,
and there should be more transparency and urgency when it comes to the testing process.

First one, understood.

what about the other two? what do you see wrong now and what should it be?

 

[Shy Guy]

Excess caffeine and other OTC drugs ARE banned though. And I'll skip Eddie Bravo and Joe Rogan's opinion that weed is a performance enhancer...

I think the main reason to ban marijuana is in the same vein as alcohol - fighter safety. Diaz could have smoked that week and been under the line. He almost surely smoked that day.
If he is intoxicated, he is a danger to himself. The athletic commission is responsible for making sure fighters go in the cage under all reasonable precautions.

For everyone that says don't ban nick getting high, can he get drunk before the match? What happens when an intoxicated fighter is seriously injured and we have to defend MMA as not being as dangerous as other sports?

Those are banned in competition, which is a 12 hour window. His point was that it's a performance enhancer leading up to the fight.

 

[Deleted member 1]

Those are banned in competition, which is a 12 hour window. His point was that it's a performance enhancer leading up to the fight.

Derp, missed that.

I'll remain with my position for keeping weed banned, but can't get in the Rogan camp that it's a PED

 

[Shy Guy]

Derp, missed that.

I'll remain with my position for keeping weed banned, but can't get in the Rogan camp that it's a PED

I'm fine with keeping it banned in competition but I would like to see better testing to ensure that the athlete did use within that 12 hour window. As it is now, they can only assume based on metabolite levels.

 

[Deleted member 1]

I'm fine with keeping it banned in competition but I would like to see better testing to ensure that the athlete did use within that 12 hour window. As it is now, they can only assume based on metabolite levels.

I'm not that concerned about it...
There's a pretty reasonable limit set that is not ZERO. I'm not sure I care for organizations or anyone else to take the onus and spend the money because the fighter has an addiction.
Got a fight coming up, need to make sure your levels are low enough, might risk your entire livelihood and disgrace your legacy making everyone question your dedication to the career that pays you? Nah, better smoke on fight week. How much time and energy do we need to spend on this to make sure that Nick and others can smoke three days before the fight because it could get confused with fight day?

 

[GJdeux]

you only know when you try, but as far as i know, they don't grant them, because of federal law.
NSAC is just a cowboy org

did they say he didn't apply for one? I thought he tried that some years ago when he first got his card.

 

[GJdeux]

to get 300, you must have smoked the same day.

I don't get a lot of this metabolite stuff, I mean I get that more recent use will give you a higher level, but what are you basing 300 on meaning he smoked the same day? Is 300 the highest level you can have in your body? Or does that mean he had more before the fight? What is the half life-how quick does it get out of your body relative to metabolite readings?

 

[Morpheushasleftthebuilding]

I don't get a lot of this metabolite stuff, I mean I get that more recent use will give you a higher level, but what are you basing 300 on meaning he smoked the same day? Is 300 the highest level you can have in your body? Or does that mean he had more before the fight? What is the half life-how quick does it get out of your body relative to metabolite readings?

as i recall, he past his prefight drugtest for a license on wednesday after several tries, so than he must have been below 150, to get to 300, he must have smoked on thursday or later.

 

[GJdeux]

as i recall, he past his prefight drugtest for a license on wednesday after several tries, so than he must have been below 150, to get to 300, he must have smoked on thursday or later.

would anderson's stuff have shown up on pre-fight tests? or would that just be for blood? I"m guessing they are measuring the metabolites in urine for the pre-fight test?

 

[Morpheushasleftthebuilding]

would anderson's stuff have shown up on pre-fight tests? or would that just be for blood? I"m guessing they are measuring the metabolites in urine for the pre-fight test?

it would have showed up, but Andy never failed a drugstest, so it was not required, only for Fighters who came off a suspension.