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[La Paix]

Blade Runner 4/5

Great movie. I can't believe how incredible all those scenes looked considering it was made in 82. That could've been made a decade later and still look better than most sci-fis I assume. Also during the credits I see it was based of "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?" which is a book a have on my list. I was surprised to such a strong product placement there by Coke as I just didn't think that type of thing has been around in such obvious fashion back then.

A few questions for anybody willing to answer. I have some ideas but want to hear others

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Why did Batty let Deckard live? Why did he self mutilate with the nail? What's the significance of that unicorn dream? Was the dove a symbol of Deckard? How bad will part 2 suck?

 

[Priziesthorse]

Spoiler

Why did Batty let Deckard live? Why did he self mutilate with the nail? What's the significance of that unicorn dream? Was the dove a symbol of Deckard? How bad will part 2 suck?

Spoiler

Why did Batty let Deckard live?
Well, the movie is really about what it means to be human. Batty is built to be a slave and has artificial memories, but does that mean he is not human? In the end he realizes there is nothing that can be done to prolong his existence. He can't save his own life, but he can save Deckard's. That final act of saving Deckard shows he has free will, he's not a slave and is indeed "human".

Why did he self mutilate with the nail?
That could be a lot of things. There's a lot of religious themes throughout the film. It could be his transformation to a Christ-like figure. He breaks 2 of Deckard's fingers for his 2 friends that were murdered. Perhaps the nail in his own hand signified his acceptance of his own death.

What's the significance of that unicorn dream?
The unicorn dream is to show that Deckard is a replicant himself. He told Rachael in the beginning of the movie that he could access her files and see all her memories. The Gaff dude must have looked up Deckard's memories and saw that one of them was of a unicorn. He is kind of taunting him throughout the movie with all those origami unicorns to try to tell him he's a replicant.

Was the dove a symbol of Deckard?
Doves are symbolic of lots of shit. I think they are supposed to symbolize the soul, which demonstrates his humanity. They also symbolize the ending of something, like his existence.

How bad will part 2 suck?
I'm not big on remakes and sequels but the director has never made a bad film. The teaser trailer looks sickkkkk.

 

[benjo0101]

Spoiler

Why did Batty let Deckard live?
Well, the movie is really about what it means to be human. Batty is built to be a slave and has artificial memories, but does that mean he is not human? In the end he realizes there is nothing that can be done to prolong his existence. He can't save his own life, but he can save Deckard's. That final act of saving Deckard shows he has free will, he's not a slave and is indeed "human".

Why did he self mutilate with the nail?
That could be a lot of things. There's a lot of religious themes throughout the film. It could be his transformation to a Christ-like figure. He breaks 2 of Deckard's fingers for his 2 friends that were murdered. Perhaps the nail in his own hand signified his acceptance of his own death.

What's the significance of that unicorn dream?
The unicorn dream is to show that Deckard is a replicant himself. He told Rachael in the beginning of the movie that he could access her files and see all her memories. The Gaff dude must have looked up Deckard's memories and saw that one of them was of a unicorn. He is kind of taunting him throughout the movie with all those origami unicorns to try to tell him he's a replicant.

Was the dove a symbol of Deckard?
Doves are symbolic of lots of shit. I think they are supposed to symbolize the soul, which demonstrates his humanity. They also symbolize the ending of something, like his existence.

How bad will part 2 suck?
I'm not big on remakes and sequels but the director has never made a bad film. The teaser trailer looks sickkkkk.

Spoiler

The unicorn dream is so wildly different between the cuts, make sure you either watch the final cut, or all the cuts if you have the patience, it's the most significant change in the movies narrative. Except the voiceover of course...

Why did he self mutilate with the nail?

That could be a lot of things. There's a lot of religious themes throughout the film. It could be his transformation to a Christ-like figure. He breaks 2 of Deckard's fingers for his 2 friends that were murdered. Perhaps the nail in his own hand signified his acceptance of his own death.

I slightly disagree, I believe it is showing his disgust for not being truly human in physical form but having all of the attributes "mentally", he knows his body is a vehical with a restricted life span and so smashing a nail through himself shows his internal disgust for the body he was given. I always thought that and the infamous tears in the rain were some of the most moving parts of the film. He simply wants a body that lasts and gives him equality, but he has no choice. A commentary on equal rights of different bodies, races, etc etc.

 

[benjo0101]

Watched:

La la land - Loved it, especially the ending (my missus was so pissed)

Rear Window - Loved it, great movie

The Princess Bride - Possibly my second favourite movie of all time. Flawless.

Dr Strangelove - Thought it was poo, didnt get half the jokes and it was played so straight it made almost no sense. Perhaps I am too young for the gags.

Big Hero 6 - Movie as a whole was fine, but not great. The main character Bay max was just awesome (falalalalala).

Taxi Driver - Loved it, cant believe it took me this long to find this gem.

From Russia with Love - Arguably the most topical Bond movie of the era there is. Enjoyed it greatly.

The Shining - About 90 minutes of gripping setup let down by a very confusingly short and off topic final 30 that just didnt put the setup to good use.

 

[benjo0101]

First off, if you watch movies like Song2 does, you will be never be able to truly appreciate the art of film. Watching movies on laptops while surfing the internet is a waste of time. The cinematic experience is essential. Get in the car and drive to the theater. It's like going to church. You're going to surrender yourself to something for a couple hours. There is just something about going somewhere specifically designed for watching movies. The big screen and the speakers. No distractions. Not saying you can't enjoy a movie at home, but it's the not the ideal environment.

If you really want to understand why certain films are lauded, you need to study the craft of filmmaking. Most people watch a film and aren't cognizant of why the camera is leading their eye in a certain direction. Every camera movement has a purpose. Different lenses influence how you interpret scenes. Then you can get into shot composition and how directors arrange a frame to communicate a specific message and feeling.

You can start here. I'd watch all that dude's Youtube videos. I also really like dvd commentary tracks with directors where they explain their thought process of why they setup scenes certain ways.




As for spotting symbolism, that all depends on what you're watching. Things might not be going over your head. It could just be that there is very little substance to modern movies. Comic book flicks really dumbed down our culture. You might have to look to the past for more meaning. I'd recommend watching an Andrei Tarkovsky film if you want to watch poetry in motion. His film Stalker is an existential masterpiece. All Stanley Kubrick films are masterpieces imo. There is a subtlety to them. He doesn't directly tell you something. He presents two sides of an argument. You might go into one of his movies believing something and coming out afterwards questioning that belief. There are still some modern masters like Paul Thomas Anderson. You ask why certain songs are played. I don't think anyone picks better music to capture a mood than he does. He uses the song from the Popeye movie in Punch Drunk Love. It's amazing. It creates a certain rhythm to the film. It's like a musical without any singing. Amazing.

That is a cracker of a video, very informative. I love Drive, reminds me I should watch it more...

I went through a very strange and difficult period of my life around the time I watched Drive, I listened to the soundtrack on repeat whilst driving near 100 miles to an adventure race after a week of night shifts starting at 6pm, finishing at 6am and heading to the race for 8am. By the time I got to the race I was an emotional wreck but damn did I smash that race. To this day I have never won anything atheltic, and I have no reason to believe in the future I will, but I finished 5th in a brutal 15 mile race whilst the entire time hearing Under Your Spell in my head, a very strong soundtrack.

London Grammar lost an awful lot of my respect when they covered Kavinsky's - Nightcall a year or two after the movie without even mentioning it was a cover. Probably not a "money grab", but it rubbed me the wrong way.

Annoyed me almost as much as when The Departed came out and I sat down to watch it all excited because it had won all these awards and after 20 minutes I was frowning going... this is the exact plot of Infernal Affairs... that isnt on the DVD box that this is a remake.... How the fuck can you win all these awards and not even mention the (in my opinion superior) source material....

 

[La Paix]

Spoiler

Why did Batty let Deckard live?
Well, the movie is really about what it means to be human. Batty is built to be a slave and has artificial memories, but does that mean he is not human? In the end he realizes there is nothing that can be done to prolong his existence. He can't save his own life, but he can save Deckard's. That final act of saving Deckard shows he has free will, he's not a slave and is indeed "human".

Why did he self mutilate with the nail?
That could be a lot of things. There's a lot of religious themes throughout the film. It could be his transformation to a Christ-like figure. He breaks 2 of Deckard's fingers for his 2 friends that were murdered. Perhaps the nail in his own hand signified his acceptance of his own death.

What's the significance of that unicorn dream?
The unicorn dream is to show that Deckard is a replicant himself. He told Rachael in the beginning of the movie that he could access her files and see all her memories. The Gaff dude must have looked up Deckard's memories and saw that one of them was of a unicorn. He is kind of taunting him throughout the movie with all those origami unicorns to try to tell him he's a replicant.

Was the dove a symbol of Deckard?
Doves are symbolic of lots of shit. I think they are supposed to symbolize the soul, which demonstrates his humanity. They also symbolize the ending of something, like his existence.

How bad will part 2 suck?
I'm not big on remakes and sequels but the director has never made a bad film. The teaser trailer looks sickkkkk.

Spoiler

The unicorn dream is so wildly different between the cuts, make sure you either watch the final cut, or all the cuts if you have the patience, it's the most significant change in the movies narrative. Except the voiceover of course...


I slightly disagree, I believe it is showing his disgust for not being truly human in physical form but having all of the attributes "mentally", he knows his body is a vehical with a restricted life span and so smashing a nail through himself shows his internal disgust for the body he was given. I always thought that and the infamous tears in the rain were some of the most moving parts of the film. He simply wants a body that lasts and gives him equality, but he has no choice. A commentary on equal rights of different bodies, races, etc etc.

Great insight guy thanks.

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I knew Deckard was an Android but never considered the origami as a taunt from weird guy. It never crossed my mind until the girl asks him if he took the test then I was looking for confirmation through out. A good taunt was
Gaff: You've done a man's job, sir. I guess you're through, huh?
Deckard: Finished.
[Gaff throws Deckard his gun]
Gaff: It's too bad she won't live! But then again, who does?
I'll be rewatch this one for sure in a better setting setting soon enough.

And Drive was another great movie. It introduced to the synthwave/Dreamwave genre of music and that has become one of my favourite types of music, great for workouts. Love anything 80s feeling.

 

[Priziesthorse]

Taxi Driver - Loved it, cant believe it took me this long to find this gem.

If you're interested, these are pretty great.

 

[Pitbull9]

Two fucking sick movies. Well one sick one and one pretty good one. Unthinkable was fucking insanity! I also watched the Loft which was pretty cool. Im loving these suspense thrillers lately.

 

[benjo0101]

If you're interested, these are pretty great.

At work at the mo, I will give them a go next time I can. Cheers

 

[BeardOfKnowledge]

The Equalizer: 8/10
Captain America: Civil War: 6.5/10
Rogue One: 5/10
Batman: Mask of the Phantasm: 9/10
The Accountant: 6.5/10 (tried too hard to make it a drama)

Hoping to see John Wick Chapter 2 sometime this weekend or next week, but I'm going to pre-emptively give it an 11/10.

 

[Priziesthorse]

That is a cracker of a video, very informative. I love Drive, reminds me I should watch it more...

I went through a very strange and difficult period of my life around the time I watched Drive, I listened to the soundtrack on repeat whilst driving near 100 miles to an adventure race after a week of night shifts starting at 6pm, finishing at 6am and heading to the race for 8am. By the time I got to the race I was an emotional wreck but damn did I smash that race. To this day I have never won anything atheltic, and I have no reason to believe in the future I will, but I finished 5th in a brutal 15 mile race whilst the entire time hearing Under Your Spell in my head, a very strong soundtrack.

London Grammar lost an awful lot of my respect when they covered Kavinsky's - Nightcall a year or two after the movie without even mentioning it was a cover. Probably not a "money grab", but it rubbed me the wrong way.

Annoyed me almost as much as when The Departed came out and I sat down to watch it all excited because it had won all these awards and after 20 minutes I was frowning going... this is the exact plot of Infernal Affairs... that isnt on the DVD box that this is a remake.... How the fuck can you win all these awards and not even mention the (in my opinion superior) source material....

Great insight guy thanks.

Spoiler

I knew Deckard was an Android but never considered the origami as a taunt from weird guy. It never crossed my mind until the girl asks him if he took the test then I was looking for confirmation through out. A good taunt was
Gaff: You've done a man's job, sir. I guess you're through, huh?
Deckard: Finished.
[Gaff throws Deckard his gun]
Gaff: It's too bad she won't live! But then again, who does?
I'll be rewatch this one for sure in a better setting setting soon enough.

And Drive was another great movie. It introduced to the synthwave/Dreamwave genre of music and that has become one of my favourite types of music, great for workouts. Love anything 80s feeling.

The story on the decision to choose that music for the movie is amazing.

Ryan Gosling was given control of the film in the early stages. He had to pick a director so he called up Nicolas Winding Refn to meet him at a restaurant in Hollywood to discuss the film. NWR had the flu or some shit and decided to take some medicine that Harrison Ford had given him in the past. It got him high as a kite. He could barely get through their meeting. Once they were done NWR asked Gosling for a ride home cuz he was high and also doesn't have a license. So they are driving in the car, listening to the radio. "I Can't Fight This Feeling Anymore" by REO Speedwagon comes on and NWR just starts crying lol. Tears are rolling down his face and now he's singing the song at the top of his lungs. He turns to Gosling and tells him Drive is going to be about a guy who drives around at night listening to pop music. Gosling said "let's do it"

 

[benjo0101]

The story on the decision to choose that music for the movie is amazing.

Ryan Gosling was given control of the film in the early stages. He had to pick a director so he called up Nicolas Winding Refn to meet him at a restaurant in Hollywood to discuss the film. NWR had the flu or some shit and decided to take some medicine that Harrison Ford had given him in the past. It got him high as a kite. He could barely get through their meeting. Once they were done NWR asked Gosling for a ride home cuz he was high and also doesn't have a license. So they are driving in the car, listening to the radio. "I Can't Fight This Feeling Anymore" by REO Speedwagon comes on and NWR just starts crying lol. Tears are rolling down his face and now he's singing the song at the top of his lungs. He turns to Gosling and tells him Drive is going to be about a guy who drives around at night listening to pop music. Gosling said "let's do it"

That is so awesome.

 

[Super Dave]

Suicide Squad - No rating.
I couldn't finish it and slept through a good chunk of it.
I won't bother listing my problems with it. Bottom line: hot garbage

 

[SongExotic2]

Suicide Squad - No rating.
I couldn't finish it and slept through a good chunk of it.
I won't bother listing my problems with it. Bottom line: hot garbage

Yup that movie was dogshit. My lady friend called me the other week telling my how much she enjoyed it, I had to pretend I diddnt think it was completely shit

 

[BeardOfKnowledge]

Suicide Squad - No rating.
I couldn't finish it and slept through a good chunk of it.
I won't bother listing my problems with it. Bottom line: hot garbage

It's funny. I know probably 10 people who've seen it. Every review is either "Best thing ever" of "Worst thing ever" It's the only thing I've ever heard of where actual review from humans sound like Yelp! ratings.

 

[Sex Chicken]

I watched the documentary "Gleason" last night. It's very good. Inspiring and moving.

 

[member 3289]

@BirdWatcher I watched Arrival based on your recommendation a few pages back.

Spoiler: Arrival Plot Spoilers

While the language-related aspects of the film were certainly intriguing, I didn't like the movie overall.

The stuff with the daughter was just incredibly sad. I mean a little too sad for my tastes. I get that not every movie has to have a stereotypical happy ending, but this one just took the sad factor to the extreme.

Also, I felt the writers were too vague with the alien species description. Ok, the heptapods don't see time or language in a linear way, and ok, they arrived on Earth because they're gonna need help from humans in 3,000 years, BUT a lot of shit was either unexplained or vague. I found that annoying.

But that's just like, my opinion man...

And btw I think I've hit my 5-serious-posts-per-month quota, so you will have to wait until March if you want to discuss this further.

 

[Priziesthorse]

@BirdWatcher I watched Arrival based on your recommendation a few pages back.

Spoiler: Arrival Plot Spoilers

While the language-related aspects of the film were certainly intriguing, I didn't like the movie overall.

The stuff with the daughter was just incredibly sad. I mean a little too sad for my tastes. I get that not every movie has to have a stereotypical happy ending, but this one just took the sad factor to the extreme.

Also, I felt the writers were too vague with the alien species description. Ok, the heptapods don't see time or language in a linear way, and ok, they arrived on Earth because they're gonna need help from humans in 3,000 years, BUT a lot of shit was either unexplained or vague. I found that annoying.

But that's just like, my opinion man...

And btw I think I've hit my 5-serious-posts-per-month quota, so you will have to wait until March if you want to discuss this further.

Stick to Disney movies.

 

[La Paix]

@BirdWatcher I watched Arrival based on your recommendation a few pages back.

Spoiler: Arrival Plot Spoilers

While the language-related aspects of the film were certainly intriguing, I didn't like the movie overall.

The stuff with the daughter was just incredibly sad. I mean a little too sad for my tastes. I get that not every movie has to have a stereotypical happy ending, but this one just took the sad factor to the extreme.

Also, I felt the writers were too vague with the alien species description. Ok, the heptapods don't see time or language in a linear way, and ok, they arrived on Earth because they're gonna need help from humans in 3,000 years, BUT a lot of shit was either unexplained or vague. I found that annoying.

But that's just like, my opinion man...

And btw I think I've hit my 5-serious-posts-per-month quota, so you will have to wait until March if you want to discuss this further.

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Agree on the high level of sadness. What made it worse is my wife's sister is currently living with cancer and I've lost 3 family members in the past so those scenes were rough. I don't like those feelings but if a movie can drag them out I think that's the idea. O almost had to turn off off Guardians of the galaxy in the begining when my kids kept asking what's wrong with Starlords mom. Thankfully I didn't because I loved that film.

As far as the aliens I think they purposely left them vague as to not have viewers get wrapped up in the 5 Ws about them and just stay focused on the bigger picture.

I liked the concept on how they presented time and and how huge a problem like communication (that most take for granted IMO) could be of and when that time comes.

Seriousness over, see you in one of Jason's poop threads.

 

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Stick to Disney movies.

 

[La Paix]

Stick to Disney movies.

Oh man. Lion King and E.T. are rough.

 

[member 3289]

Seriousness over, see you in one of Jason's poop threads.

I'm actually going to try to write "Cash me ousside, howbow dah" for a minimum 25% of the rest of my posts this month.

 

[member 3289]

Stick to Disney movies.

Cash me ousside, howbow dah?

 

[La Paix]

Cash me ousside, howbow dah?

 

[member 3289]

true story, this was my favorite Disney moved when I was a child