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BeardOfKnowledge

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And you know they'd just do an instant team-up with the LWO against Legado Del Fantasma that would make everybody yawn and take their shine off.

My problem with a lot of Luchadors is their entire gimmick is "I'm a Luchador." Just like the "i'm a good wrestler" generic Americans, that's not gonna get you over.

Hence why Dom is a genius with his heel run, because he was just another Luchador despite the last name Mysterio until then.
Well, in 2025 there's no shortage of guys thG do flippy shit. Rey is Rey. He gets a pass for obvious reasons. Penta isn't huge, but he's also not tiny. The biggest thing with Penta is he has a unique look where most luchadores, Fenix included, are just on regular wrestling gear with a fairly generic mask.
 

dennis5

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Cena's promo opening on RAW is basically the same thing he said to Nikki Bella when he broke up with her. LOL.
 

Meohfumado

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See people complaining that it was an old fashioned "blame the fans" heel-turn promo, and they are right, but I just look at it as an vet playing somebody else's hit, and putting their own spin on it.
 

Chrit

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See people complaining that it was an old fashioned "blame the fans" heel-turn promo, and they are right, but I just look at it as an vet playing somebody else's hit, and putting their own spin on it.
I mean... its the only 'heel' promo Cena could do...

Its either that or cut a promo that makes him kind of a tweener with the 'This is my last shot at another title... I failed at the Rumble, so the only other opportunity to get to Mania was the Chamber... and since its my last ever Mania, I couldn't leave it to chance.'
 

Meohfumado

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I mean... its the only 'heel' promo Cena could do...

Its either that or cut a promo that makes him kind of a tweener with the 'This is my last shot at another title... I failed at the Rumble, so the only other opportunity to get to Mania was the Chamber... and since its my last ever Mania, I couldn't leave it to chance.'
Well that wouldn't work because he already won the chamber on his own, before turning on Cody. His motivation for selling out is still spotty given that everything Rock promised Cody, Cena already has (movies, TV, every commercial VO under the sun, etc).

But I guess they can say he already sold out, and that's why he didn't have to qualify and punched his own ticket to the chamber. The Rock already hooked him up, and now was just time to pay the piper.

Still a great swerve even if the logic/psychology behind it is sketch...
 

Meohfumado

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I'm just gonna leave this here. lmao

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People upset both at the repeated choke-out angle, and because Theory got squashed. But now hearing that the squash was due to Cena's promo going long....but I thought Netflix didn't have time limits, so why turn their planned 11 minute match into a squash?
 

Chrit

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People upset both at the repeated choke-out angle, and because Theory got squashed. But now hearing that the squash was due to Cena's promo going long....but I thought Netflix didn't have time limits, so why turn their planned 11 minute match into a squash?
Netflix doesn't... but I'd think WWE would still try to be pretty consistent with run times.

Gotta keep that muscle trained for situations where they have to hit time cues.
 

Wiggy

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People upset both at the repeated choke-out angle, and because Theory got squashed. But now hearing that the squash was due to Cena's promo going long....but I thought Netflix didn't have time limits, so why turn their planned 11 minute match into a squash?
People should be upset that "Main Event" Jey Uso did a "spear" that was so god-awful, Cole had to call it a cross body. Then he outdid himself by botching a dive over the top rope onto his own head.

The only reason he's not gonna have the worst match at Mania 2 years in a row is a Gunther will drag at least something decent out of him, no matter how craptastic Jey is.
 

Meohfumado

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People should be upset that "Main Event" Jey Uso did a "spear" that was so god-awful, Cole had to call it a cross body. Then he outdid himself by botching a dive over the top rope onto his own head.

The only reason he's not gonna have the worst match at Mania 2 years in a row is a Gunther will drag at least something decent out of him, no matter how craptastic Jey is.
It was ugly, but then again Bron's spear later on was decidedly un-Bron-like. Guess spears are just one of those moves where bad spears look particularly bad.
 

Wiggy

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Yeah, but we know that Bron can do excellent spears and him not doing a good one is out of the ordinary.

Jey's "good" spear is mid, and the one he did on Monday wasn't even a fucking spear. lol
 

RoidRucky

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Great crowd, great heel Cena promo
Talking about heels, I'm still going with the whole heel storyline.
May turn babyface again soon.
Song snitched again in your boxing thread, because of the new merch I made . (So coped a "Ban")
Little peon jobber doesn't know what's coming his way...........
 

Barry_BondsMVP

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Talking about heels, I'm still going with the whole heel storyline.
May turn babyface again soon.
Song snitched again in your boxing thread, because of the new merch I made . (So coped a "Ban")
Little peon jobber doesn't know what's coming his way...........
you got a perma ban?
 

RoidRucky

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you got a perma ban?
No just till the 22nd march,

Cause song reported the t-shirt I posted in ur boxing thread, and cried to Wild earlier on here, it's all good.
He switched as usual

I've set up camp in a thread I made and the owner Wild was kind enough to tell us to just contain the 'back n forths' there.
 

Barry_BondsMVP

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No just till the 22nd march,

Cause song reported the t-shirt I posted in ur boxing thread, and cried to Wild earlier on here, it's all good.
He switched as usual

I've set up camp in a thread I made and the owner Wild was kind enough to tell us to just contain the 'back n forths' there.
yes I just commented on that thread lol