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Bozy

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Feb 22, 2015
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Elias gets interrupted by Bray and his Buzzards.....Lights gonout and on...only for sénor Benjamin to be on the ramp with a shovel. The lights go off and on again.....Woken but Broken Matt Hardy is standing behind Bray.....Delete Delete Delete
 

ShakaSway

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Oct 18, 2015
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Oh no I just tuned in. Elias vs Strowman.

This is team Edward vs Team Jacob for me =(((((
 

Bozy

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Feb 22, 2015
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How can Dean smell gold when the belts are silver?
 

ShakaSway

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New Shield has been pretty great. Know a ton of people are bitching about it just being a vehicle to get Roman cheered, but think Roman and Seth are doing some of their best mic work on top of their in ring performances, and Dean has upped it in the ring on top of his mic skills.
 

ShakaSway

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With the Asuka and Paige’s Stable thing. Y’all think if a talented wrestler giving sole credit to someone else for their success could generate heel heat? If Asuka just went full Mandy Rose and the other one. Just worshipping Paige for all she did, disregarding her own legacy.

Because in today’s wrestling, everyone is just gonna cheer talent over character until that next wave hits. AJ Styles will be cheered heel or face, Bayley could possibly be cheered over Eva Marie if she was still here

But a talented wrestler just submitting to giving credit to some else, that’d get heat right?

I miss when heel heat was a thing for some reason tonight
 

Bozy

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Feb 22, 2015
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Whats the whole story behind that? Know Paige had topless pics and something something Woods
She had a fling with him and another guy in nxt. Pics with seman on the belt and her. Just frat party stuff.
 

Bozy

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With the Asuka and Paige’s Stable thing. Y’all think if a talented wrestler giving sole credit to someone else for their success could generate heel heat? If Asuka just went full Mandy Rose and the other one. Just worshipping Paige for all she did, disregarding her own legacy.

Because in today’s wrestling, everyone is just gonna cheer talent over character until that next wave hits. AJ Styles will be cheered heel or face, Bayley could possibly be cheered over Eva Marie if she was still here

But a talented wrestler just submitting to giving credit to some else, that’d get heat right?

I miss when heel heat was a thing for some reason tonight
Our childhood heels and today's heels are completely different as you know. Flair was the best heel. Hollywood Hogan great also. Heels don't need to do 360 splashes and diving 4 arms. Those moves sell. They draw appreciation.

AJ should've slowed his style down as a heel. Go for the diving 4 arm and stop.. go over and do a small package. Draw heat. Make the fans want to boo you. But today. These guys want to be cheered. Can't have it both ways.
 

ShakaSway

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She had a fling with him and another guy in nxt. Pics with seman on the belt and her. Just frat party stuff.
I’ve watched a couple episodes of UpUpDownDown, but will fist bump that subscribe button now.
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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Our childhood heels and today's heels are completely different as you know. Flair was the best heel. Hollywood Hogan great also. Heels don't need to do 360 splashes and diving 4 arms. Those moves sell. They draw appreciation.

AJ should've slowed his style down as a heel. Go for the diving 4 arm and stop.. go over and do a small package. Draw heat. Make the fans want to boo you. But today. These guys want to be cheered. Can't have it both ways.
This is dead right. A quality heel needs to be a 4+ star, but they don't need to pander to the crowd. It's what made JeriKO so God damn good.
 

Bozy

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Feb 22, 2015
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OK. Sorry for the rant. But. We all know that this is scripted sports entertainment. The wwe knows that we know this. You can't push the talent to be on social media and also maintain character while pulling back the curtain. Like Rusev and Lana. She is Russian on Smackdown but is American on total divas. Steph is a bitch on TV but on Twitter she's an all American sweetheart giving to kids. Luke Harper is insane but is OK enough to play Madden on YouTube.

They could be a bit more low key and use more psychology with us as
 

Bozy

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This is dead right. A quality heel needs to be a 4+ star, but they don't need to pander to the crowd. It's what made JeriKO so God damn good.
Exactly. Jinder was damn near a perfect heel. Could very easily turn him into the hell of this generation I think
 

ShakaSway

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Oct 18, 2015
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Our childhood heels and today's heels are completely different as you know. Flair was the best heel. Hollywood Hogan great also. Heels don't need to do 360 splashes and diving 4 arms. Those moves sell. They draw appreciation.

AJ should've slowed his style down as a heel. Go for the diving 4 arm and stop.. go over and do a small package. Draw heat. Make the fans want to boo you. But today. These guys want to be cheered. Can't have it both ways.
Amen brother. Neville did it right. He would tease the Red Arrow and then go right into a rest hold. I hated him so much for that, but that was the point. Was perfect in hindsight, just like Flair’s selling.

Will even give credit to Hogan. And HHH for that matter. I hated them on top, and tuned in to see them lose. I occasionally tell people that 2003-5 Evolution run was one of the best. I was invested.

I really do like the above the top talent. Balor, Styles, Shinsuke, Rollins, all of them. Just want characters damnit