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what fighter bashing ? I guess you didn't see her fight with The Bullet.. Listen dude Holly is done and she is probably gonna lose her next fight again . Nothing you or anyone else can do and Ronda will get her belt back again. you have to go drop so low that you are gonna report. you are simply Amazing
 

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what fighter bashing ? I guess you didn't see her fight with The Bullet.. Listen dude Holly is done and she is probably gonna lose her next fight again . Nothing you or anyone else can do and Ronda will get her belt back again. you have to go drop so low that you are gonna report. you are simply Amazing
calm down lol..You,said HOLLY ONLY HITS AIR..I then said RR aka ronda rouseys head is air? hence you're calling her a airhead..it was a joke that obviously went over your head..I can't even joke with you, without you thinking somebodys out to get you..
 

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Ronda actually rocked Holly on the feet even after getting tagged a few times.
 

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Lmao.

Oh man, you're just too stupid.
well I would say I am less stupid than u. by the way you were thinking holly gonna win against Miesha and Valentina . I guess you are the one who is stupid who even don't know shit about mma ..poor fella
 

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Ronda actually rocked Holly on the feet even after getting tagged a few times.
Some people think Ronda can't Rock Holly.. I guess they are fan boys who are just depressed after her latest loss.
she looked amateur
 

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calm down lol..You,said HOLLY ONLY HITS AIR..I then said RR aka ronda rouseys head is air? hence you're calling her a airhead..it was a joke that obviously went over your head..I can't even joke with you, without you thinking somebodys out to get you..
reporting me is no joke....If you didn't report then that's good.. now we can carry on our argument:D
 

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well I would say I am less stupid than u. by the way you were thinking holly gonna win against Miesha and Valentina . I guess you are the one who is stupid who even don't know shit about mma ..poor fella
I rooted for Holly yes, but I didn't think it was out of the realm of possibility that she could lose too Miesha or Valentina.

She was also winning the fight vs Miesha up until Miesha finally managed too sink in an RNC.

It just surprised me that Valentina outboxed Holly, but that's because I didn't know much about Valentina.

Too say that Ronda is going to beat Holly with her fists, I'm assuming you mean she's going to either out point her with her fists or knock her out, is the dumbest thing I've ever heard someone say about this sport. Yes. You are dumb.

Did you not see Holly outbox Ronda easily?
 
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Ronda actually rocked Holly on the feet even after getting tagged a few times.
Yes, she landed ONE punch and Holly then proceeded to fuck her up good and proper.

Because you land one punch does not mean you've got a good chance again the second time around.
 
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Yes, she landed ONE punch and Holly then proceeded to fuck her up good and proper.

Because you land one punch does not mean you've got a good chance again the second time around.
well considering that Ronda used the absolute worse gameplan you could against someone like holly, the rematch is a lot closer than you think. If she takes her time like miesha did, she has a good chance.
 

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well considering that Ronda used the absolute worse gameplan you could against someone like holly, the rematch is a lot closer than you think. If she takes her time like miesha did, she has a good chance.
The difference is Miesha can shoot a double and Ronda can't.
 
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The difference is Miesha ca shoot a double and Ronda can't.
I don't think she needs to. Ronda actually got Holly down for a few seconds and almost took her back, but she was already badly hurt at that point so it was easier for holly to get back to her feet. Besides that, we haven't seen Ronda go for any other real takedowns/trips/throws. She just did a stupid gamplan of rushing forward on the feet, swinging wildly.
 

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I don't think she needs to. Ronda actually got Holly down for a few seconds and almost took her back, but she was already badly hurt at that point so it was easier for holly to get back to her feet. Besides that, we haven't seen Ronda go for any other real takedowns/trips/throws. She just did a stupid gamplan of rushing forward on the feet, swinging wildly.
She actually tried throwing Holly a few times, got her down once, failed to get the armbar and each time after that Holly stopped her, even took her down herself.

If Ronda goes for a trip or something, tries to mix up her takedowns then sure, she can probably get her down, but what will she do with it?

So far what we've seen from Ronda is her ability to throw sloppy strikes to set up her throws and she has one knockout by knee in he clinch. Every other time she either KO'd her opponent with sloppy Boxing or threw them after backing them up with said Boxing, threw them and armbarred them.

None of that is going to work against Holly.

She can't outbox her, can't outkick her, has a hard time throwing her or even cornering her and she has no double leg to counter underneath her striking, so whats left for her to do?
 
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She actually tried throwing Holly a few times, got her down once, failed to get the armbar and each time after that Holly stopped her, even took her down herself.

If Ronda goes for a trip or something, tries to mix up her takedowns then sure, she can probably get her down, but what will she do with it?

So far what we've seen from Ronda is her ability to throw sloppy strikes to set up her throws and she has one knockout by knee in he clinch. Every other time she either KO'd her opponent with sloppy Boxing or threw them after backing them up with said Boxing, threw them and armbarred them.

None of that is going to work against Holly.

She can't outbox her, can't outkick her, has a hard time throwing her or even cornering her and she has no double leg to counter underneath her striking, so whats left for her to do?
Eat a shin. Nomnomnom.
 

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She actually tried throwing Holly a few times, got her down once, failed to get the armbar and each time after that Holly stopped her, even took her down herself.

If Ronda goes for a trip or something, tries to mix up her takedowns then sure, she can probably get her down, but what will she do with it?

So far what we've seen from Ronda is her ability to throw sloppy strikes to set up her throws and she has one knockout by knee in he clinch. Every other time she either KO'd her opponent with sloppy Boxing or threw them after backing them up with said Boxing, threw them and armbarred them.

None of that is going to work against Holly.

She can't outbox her, can't outkick her, has a hard time throwing her or even cornering her and she has no double leg to counter underneath her striking, so whats left for her to do?
Ronda tried to rush the fight, like she was fighting a 30 second timer.

Before she tried any real takedown, she tried to CHASE Holly and got tagged badly. She didn't have to do that, at all. She was already badly hurt at that point. After that, she still took Holm down and got her back for a second. The rest of the fight, she chased and chased and chased on the feet, leaving her to every counter in the book. Holly has good TDD, so of course she defended a few. But it just takes one TD from Ronda, just like it did for Miesha.

Ronda can clinch and take holly down, but this time setting up the clinch properly, without chasing and coming forward wildly. She can let Holly come forward too. She needs to patient on the feet and i think she can do it. She has the ability to take down Holm from the clinch if she isn't getting tagged a million times in the face in the process by rushing like she only has 30 seconds to end the fight.

Schevchenko also tripped holly many times, its crazy to think ronda can't do the same.
 
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I rooted for Holly yes, but I didn't think it was out of the realm of possibility that she could lose too Miesha or Valentina.

She was also winning the fight vs Miesha up until Miesha finally managed too sink in an RNC.

It just surprised me that Valentina outboxed Holly, but that's because I didn't know much about Valentina.

Too say that Ronda is going to beat Holly with her fists, I'm assuming you mean she's going to either out point her with her fists or knock her out, is the dumbest thing I've ever heard someone say about this sport. Yes. You are dumb.

Did you not see Holly outbox Ronda easily?
Ronda may not have boxing technique but she certainly does have knock out power and if she lands on Holly then Holly is going down.
I am talking about power not technique.. Holly has better technique but she isn't a knock out artist .
 

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Ronda tried to rush the fight, like she was fighting a 30 second timer.

Before she tried any real takedown, she tried to CHASE Holly and got tagged badly. She didn't have to do that, at all. She was already badly hurt at that point. After that, she still took Holm down and got her back for a second. The rest of the fight, she chased and chased and chased on the feet, leaving her to every counter in the book. Holly has good TDD, so of course she defended a few. But it just takes one TD from Ronda, just like it did for Miesha.

Ronda can clinch and take holly down, but this time setting up the clinch properly, without chasing and coming forward wildly. She can let Holly come forward too. She needs to patient on the feet and i think she can do it. She has the ability to take down Holm from the clinch if she isn't getting tagged a million times in the face in the process by rushing like she only has 30 seconds to end the fight.

Schevchenko also tripped holly, ronda can do the same.
Here's my thoughts on the rushing in that fight. I assumed that all the rushing she was doing was the game plan. Get in close quickly and go for the takedown because she knew that she would not be able to for any length of time with Holm. If by some chance I'm right on this, she was doomed before the fight started with that line of thinking that I can't stand with my opponenet (even if she was actually correct). Just my .02. Everyone have a good day.
 

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Here's my thoughts on the rushing in that fight. I assumed that all the rushing she was doing was the game plan. Get in close quickly and go for the takedown because she knew that she would not be able to for any length of time with Holm. If by some chance I'm right on this, she was doomed before the fight started with that line of thinking that I can't stand with my opponenet (even if she was actually correct). Just my .02. Everyone have a good day.
You could be right, but Holly's not the one punch KO type of fighter, like Atto said. Ronda does need to look out for Holly's head kick KOs, but she can stand with Holly for a few rounds if she isn't literally running after a great counter puncher like Holly.

If Ronda is patient on the feet and doesn't chase, she can time a good clinch to takedown, much easier than people think.
 

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Here's my thoughts on the rushing in that fight. I assumed that all the rushing she was doing was the game plan. Get in close quickly and go for the takedown because she knew that she would not be able to for any length of time with Holm. If by some chance I'm right on this, she was doomed before the fight started with that line of thinking that I can't stand with my opponenet (even if she was actually correct). Just my .02. Everyone have a good day.
you are so wrong. have you forgotten the talk about Ronda competing in boxing?
 

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you are so wrong. have you forgotten the talk about Ronda competing in boxing?
I wish that i could. While it does appear she has enough power to cause some damage, she just wouldn't have a good night in a boxing match.