General Russia deploys their SU57 stealth fighters in Syria

[sparkuri]

I don't know where you get this impression. You are insinuating they a su 35 would be able to defeat all USA airpower and all allied airpower like f35 did end route? We may as well melt down the aircraft if this is the case. F35 smoked the world at red flag. I don't think Russia was involved tho

Of course Russia wasn't involved in Red Flag, it's a platform for NATO.
And you're right about the F-35, they should melt down that money pit.
But we're past that.
It can't even call itself a deterrent at this point, it's enemies don't exist.
Is completely impracticle for the front line.
It'd be great for the world it was created for 20 years ago.
The fact is, until the F-22 or F-35 start racking up kills, they are paper tigers.
The world has evolved past piloting the future.
The U.S. isn't gonna be conducting air wars near the eastern blocks with their golden gooses.
Because foreign policy dictates needs, the SU-57's mean more for Russia as self-defense than F-35's for the U.S. on offense.
Russia's S-400,500's would likely blast our JSF's out of the sky.

F-35's & 22's are great, for the middle east or North Korea, until the BRICS help them out.
Then they're worthless.

 

[SongExotic2]

Of course Russia wasn't involved in Red Flag, it's a platform for NATO.
And you're right about the F-35, they should melt down that money pit.
But we're past that.
It can't even call itself a deterrent at this point, it's enemies don't exist.
Is completely impracticle for the front line.
It'd be great for the world it was created for 20 years ago.
The fact is, until the F-22 or F-35 start racking up kills, they are paper tigers.
The world has evolved past piloting the future.
The U.S. isn't gonna be conducting air wars near the eastern blocks with their golden gooses.
Because foreign policy dictates needs, the SU-57's mean more for Russia as self-defense than F-35's for the U.S. on offense.
Russia's S-400,500's would likely blast our JSF's out of the sky.

F-35's & 22's are great, for the middle east or North Korea, until the BRICS help them out.
Then they're worthless.

No mate.

They are absolutely the greatest aircraft the west have. That is fact. Followed closely by eurofighter which has whipped them in years gone.


I don't know for sure that they will beat some russian aircraft but I know for sure that they easily smoked the west 20;1


I don't think Russia has the skills to produce a fighter like f35. I think they are years behind if I'm honest

 

[Mix6APlix]

If an F-35 an Su-35 are in a dogfight, the ONLY chance the F-35 has is on the back of it's pilot.
The Su-35 is more maneuverable and will defeat it handily.

Likewise, if the F-35 was playing chicken from 100 miles away, the F-35 wins. It's advantages are from afar.
It's apples and oranges.

Playing chicken. That's funny. I don't care if it's flying against a P51, if someone has 8 .50 caliber machine guns and is trying to shoot you out of the sky, you shoot him before he shoots you.

 

[Mix6APlix]

Of course Russia wasn't involved in Red Flag, it's a platform for NATO.
And you're right about the F-35, they should melt down that money pit.
But we're past that.
It can't even call itself a deterrent at this point, it's enemies don't exist.
Is completely impracticle for the front line.
It'd be great for the world it was created for 20 years ago.
The fact is, until the F-22 or F-35 start racking up kills, they are paper tigers.
The world has evolved past piloting the future.
The U.S. isn't gonna be conducting air wars near the eastern blocks with their golden gooses.
Because foreign policy dictates needs, the SU-57's mean more for Russia as self-defense than F-35's for the U.S. on offense.
Russia's S-400,500's would likely blast our JSF's out of the sky.

F-35's & 22's are great, for the middle east or North Korea, until the BRICS help them out.
Then they're worthless.

Doesn't your paper tiger argument apply equally to the SU57?

 

[sparkuri]

Doesn't your paper tiger argument apply equally to the SU57?

Yes, but millions aren't touting it's brilliance as the greatest plane since the F-15, so I'm hopefully bringing folks down to earth until it's actually done something.
So far the propaganda has done nothing but stretch the budget to double its' initial proposals.
Half a trillion dollar cotton fiber paper tiger.

 

[madmav]

amazing how a nation of cabbage farmers went in a 80 year span to some first generation tech savy mother fuckers after jacking nazi technology when the best they could do with it is send a dog and a monkey to the outer atmosphere of earth after getting such tech while we sent motherfuckers to the moon and back.. odds are about whatever russia claims.. 50% or less is true. meanwhile whatever the usa claims.. 90% of shit is being covered up. not hard to figure what is what..

 

[SongExotic2]

amazing how a nation of cabbage farmers went in a 80 year span to some first generation tech savy mother fuckers after jacking nazi technology when the best they could do with it is send a dog and a monkey to the outer atmosphere of earth after getting such tech while we sent motherfuckers to the moon and back.. odds are about whatever russia claims.. 50% or less is true. meanwhile whatever the usa claims.. 90% of shit is being covered up. not hard to figure what is what..

There is a lot of truth to this. Damn Russians don't know technology from potatoes. What they claim vs what is true is likely a huge disparity. And same with murica but the other way around. Sometimes. Maybe. @Stone Cold Enock Austin

 

[sparkuri]

There is a lot of truth to this. Damn Russians don't know technology from potatoes. What they claim vs what is true is likely a huge disparity. And same with murica but the other way around. Sometimes. Maybe. @Stone Cold Enock Austin

Yet they run the ISS...

All we know is what we don't know about anyone, truly.
America is no different than Russia in respect to claims of superior technology.
Both countries have weapons in service, both make claims, both have secrets.
The factual capabilities & probabilities of both are evident.