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jason73

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Trump never said he was going to nuke the norks.its all media drama and fake news
 

TalkingLeaf

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doesnt sound they were playing anything, sounds like trump decided to go fullretard off the cuff and then most likely kelly got on the phone and told tillerson and mattis to clean things up.
You're probably right. A lot of past actions by trump followed that path, so it makes sense.

I put your trump went full fucktard at -750 and trump with plan to play crazy cop, sane cop at +600
 

jason73

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Trump better go for icecream this afternoon and give them something else to be outraged about
 

Belobog

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Trump never said he was going to nuke the norks.its all media drama and fake news
The president's Tweet speaks for itself.



Note:
The modernization of the nuclear arsenal began under President Barack Obama and while Trump has pledged to overhaul the nation’s collection of bombers, submarines and land-based missiles, no substantial changes have been made since he took office.
 
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drjones

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i said i was going to do it, and i did it.

- what did you do?

i said i did it.

- so you didnt do anything?

right, im just saying i did it.

MISSION ACCOMPLISHED
 

drjones

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well north korea just directly mocked trump in a new statement and spelled out a specific plan to attack guam and said they are preparing it.

i guess we have to act now right?

it basically said they are going to launch 4 ballistic missiles at military targets on guam, they will have their plan done in mid-august and will wait for the order to proceed, they will continue to monitor trump's rhetoric in the meantime.

"trump just said a bunch of nonsense from a golf course, dialogue cannot work with a man so bereft of reason only absolute force can work"

edit - i will post it when i can find it in print, its just breaking
 
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drjones

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found a source with more info, the missiles will fall short on purpose;

North Korea will develop Guam strike plan by mid-August: KCNA

"SEOUL (Reuters) - North Korea will develop a plan by mid-August to launch four intermediate range missiles at the U.S. territory of Guam before presenting it to leader Kim Jong Un who will make a decision on whether to proceed, the North's state media said on Thursday.

"The Hwasong-12 rockets to be launched by the KPA (Korean People's Army) will cross the sky above Shimane, Hiroshima and Koichi Prefectures of Japan," the report said, citing General Kim Rak Gyom, commander of the Strategic Force of the KPA.

"They will fly 3,356.7 km (2,085.8 miles) for 1,065 seconds and hit the waters 30 to 40 km away from Guam."

The North added that U.S. President Donald Trump's "fire and fury" comments earlier this week are a "load of nonsense", saying only "absolute force can work on him"."
 

KWingJitsu

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The president's Tweet speaks for itself.



Note:
The modernization of the nuclear arsenal began under President Barack Obama and while Trump has pledged to overhaul the nation’s collection of bombers, submarines and land-based missiles, no substantial changes have been made since he took office.
LOL. Oh is it Wednesday?
Time for another lie.
(Trigger warning for @Bitchbull)
Reviewing nukes was not Trump's first order - CNNPolitics
 

jason73

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The president's Tweet speaks for itself.



Note:
The modernization of the nuclear arsenal began under President Barack Obama and while Trump has pledged to overhaul the nation’s collection of bombers, submarines and land-based missiles, no substantial changes have been made since he took office.
Exactly where does it say they are going to nuke north korea or anyone for that matter?
 

jason73

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The president's Tweet speaks for itself.



Note:
The modernization of the nuclear arsenal began under President Barack Obama and while Trump has pledged to overhaul the nation’s collection of bombers, submarines and land-based missiles, no substantial changes have been made since he took office.
You boil steaks.your arguement is irrelevant
 

sparkuri

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There are a lot of people that think Trump is racist, a bigot, and totally unqualified for world negotiation. I disagree completely, and so do many world leaders.
I think he's a unique dude, tireless worker at his age, loves his country, and rubs the bankrolled euro-socialists and snowflakes the wrong with with his quasi-arrogant & sometimes pompous attitude.
It also bothers a populous that has been duped by television and Hollywood to knee-jerk react and believe in sensationalist propaganda.
Fact is, the guy's never put a mind-altering substance into his body.
And he's been in "go mode" his entire life, and it makes people uncomfortable.
The racial/bigotry/facist angles are non-sense.

Regarding NK, he's been to China a hundred times, and all over the world, and has a unique understanding of the culture and relationships in the east, including the strategic Russia/China/NK buffer military partnership.
I believe, and it's pretty clear, that he's attempting to drive a bit of a wedge in that strategic NATO counterbalance by strengthening our Moscow relationship, specifically by easing off Syria/Ukraine, and pressuring Beijing, who's also made busy in the South China Sea by design.

I think we need to follow the money, and the banks are quiet for a reason.
If we continue to see commensurate exchanges between Russia and China in Yuan, it's certainly clear that the strategy is not working, at least on the surface.
But geopolitically and strategically, Russia only trusts China as much as the U.S. trusted Russia during WW2, means to an end; the enemy of my enemy...
Russia is the muscle, China the dough, NK a pawn.

Trump is no dummy, and understands China as the bigger threat to American global dominance in the future, and it's willingness to doormat NK as a strategy to deplete U.S. forces.
I don't presume to know what goes on behind closed doors, but I do my homework, as does Trump, and anyone who has taken lessons of war studiously.



18 years ago.

View: https://youtu.be/sbZsE-5ONmM
 

Qat

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Nov 3, 2015
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Incredible how much wishful thinking goes on in the apologists.

If the world does blow up now, it will still be someone else's fault, and not Trump's, right? And those who voted for him would have no cross to bear either, I guess.
 

Disciplined Galt

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Incredible how much wishful thinking goes on in the apologists.

If the world does blow up now, it will still be someone else's fault, and not Trump's, right? And those who voted for him would have no cross to bear either, I guess.
It'll be the Germans fault, as always.
 

IschKabibble

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There are a lot of people that think Trump is racist, a bigot, and totally unqualified for world negotiation. I disagree completely, and so do many world leaders.
I think he's a unique dude, tireless worker at his age, loves his country, and rubs the bankrolled euro-socialists and snowflakes the wrong with with his quasi-arrogant & sometimes pompous attitude.
It also bothers a populous that has been duped by television and Hollywood to knee-jerk react and believe in sensationalist propaganda.
Fact is, the guy's never put a mind-altering substance into his body.
And he's been in "go mode" his entire life, and it makes people uncomfortable.
The racial/bigotry/facist angles are non-sense.

Regarding NK, he's been to China a hundred times, and all over the world, and has a unique understanding of the culture and relationships in the east, including the strategic Russia/China/NK buffer military partnership.
I believe, and it's pretty clear, that he's attempting to drive a bit of a wedge in that strategic NATO counterbalance by strengthening our Moscow relationship, specifically by easing off Syria/Ukraine, and pressuring Beijing, who's also made busy in the South China Sea by design.

I think we need to follow the money, and the banks are quiet for a reason.
If we continue to see commensurate exchanges between Russia and China in Yuan, it's certainly clear that the strategy is not working, at least on the surface.
But geopolitically and strategically, Russia only trusts China as much as the U.S. trusted Russia during WW2, means to an end; the enemy of my enemy...
Russia is the muscle, China the dough, NK a pawn.

Trump is no dummy, and understands China as the bigger threat to American global dominance in the future, and it's willingness to doormat NK as a strategy to deplete U.S. forces.
I don't presume to know what goes on behind closed doors, but I do my homework, as does Trump, and anyone who has taken lessons of war studiously.



18 years ago.

View: https://youtu.be/sbZsE-5ONmM
Interesting interview. 18 years later and the problem has only gotten worse. No wonder the guy ran for president.
 

sparkuri

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Incredible how much wishful thinking goes on in the apologists.

If the world does blow up now, it will still be someone else's fault, and not Trump's, right? And those who voted for him would have no cross to bear either, I guess.
If the world does "blow up", the military industrial complex was too powerful for him.
Simply put, the neocons and aggressive progressives like Lindsey Graham and HRC are too influential, and John McCain can"t die fast enough.
Try and remember, these drums have been banging for over 15 years.
Also try and remember what Trump said about the horrors of nuclear war, several times.

But most importantly, UNDERSTAND, that there is a reason both sides of the isle want Trump gone.
If he had a (D) next to his name, wouldn't you celebrate that fact?

You seem to be caught up in Donkey's vs. Elephants rather than the much bigger picture that frankly couldn't be much easier to see.
You've been hearing the words "nuclear war for years, and Trump wasn't in office.
Remember that too.
I'm hoping he's just doing enough to walk the thin line of appeasing the shadow government without pulling the trigger.
If he does that, they'll pull the trigger on him, the progressives will cream their panties, Pence will come into office, and get easily manipulated by the warhawks into that war you can blame on anyone you see fit. That would include voters who just didn't wanna see HRC tout a nuclear war with Russia, a slightly more formiddable opponent than NK.