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For you guys when it comes to training?

Is there anything you've dropped that you once loved? If so, why?

Is there anything you've incorporated that you wish you had done much earlier? If so, what is it?

I used to be a big fan of barbell complexes, but I can't be bothered with that kinda thing now.

The same goes for Deadlifts & Squats. I used to love doing both at one point, but they're not essential for me and the older you get the less stress I need.

Used to love Rowing (C2 machine) but man can that be boring. I think you have to really dig rowing or hate any other machine to really like it. Also stopped Boxing (ruined my wrist) and haven't been to Judo in years.

Now I prefer traditional weightlifting schemes (3x10/8x8 etc), Tabata intervals on the indoor bike (they are great!), isolation work, battle ropes and walking outdoors (so refreshing).

That's what I find to work for me now (^^). I feel better for it (no creaks, pains, injuries etc) and I'm seeing gains from it.

You?
 

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This subforum is a bit slow as we continue to grow. But welcome to TMMAC my man. Check out the threads pinned to the top of New Member Intro forum. A lot of helpful info there.
 

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For you guys when it comes to training?
Proven methods for achieving goals. Resistance work for strength, aerobic work for the cardiovascular system, addressing diet to drop bodyfat and playing my sport to get better at my sport.
Is there anything you've dropped that you once loved? If so, why?
I used to lift heavy to failure all the time. I also used to do sprint training. I dropped both because of their toll on the body and the CNS system and because lifting lighter and doing lower intensity cardio works better, both scientifically and in my experience.
Is there anything you've incorporated that you wish you had done much earlier? If so, what is it?
Cycling for low impact cardio. Bodyweight exercises for versatility (I don't need a gym to work out).
 

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For you guys when it comes to training?
Proven methods for achieving goals. Resistance work for strength, aerobic work for the cardiovascular system, addressing diet to drop bodyfat and playing my sport to get better at my sport.
Is there anything you've dropped that you once loved? If so, why?
I used to lift heavy to failure all the time. I also used to do sprint training. I dropped both because of their toll on the body and the CNS system and because lifting lighter and doing lower intensity cardio works better, both scientifically and in my experience.
Is there anything you've incorporated that you wish you had done much earlier? If so, what is it?
Cycling for low impact cardio. Bodyweight exercises for versatility (I don't need a gym to work out).
Leigh, great reply.

I do have to ask you though, you mention "CNS" etc, but it's not as if you're 17 stone of muscle or you're 50 years of age.

You're a small guy (I'm going on your fight-weight and height), is there some kind of health problem going on or do you have a stressful job with long hours, hence why you need to not be thrashed etc? Just a question ;-)

Oh, and has your strength dropped off in competing now that you've dropped the weightlifting?
 

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This subforum is a bit slow as we continue to grow. But welcome to TMMAC my man. Check out the threads pinned to the top of New Member Intro forum. A lot of helpful info there.
Thank you!
 

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Leigh, great reply.

I do have to ask you though, you mention "CNS" etc, but it's not as if you're 17 stone of muscle or you're 50 years of age.

You're a small guy (I'm going on your fight-weight and height), is there some kind of health problem going on or do you have a stressful job with long hours, hence why you need to not be thrashed etc? Just a question ;-)

Oh, and has your strength dropped off in competing now that you've dropped the weightlifting?
Doing strength training to failure a few times per week and doing sprints a couple of times per week plus boxing, wrestling, BJJ etc is too much for most people, especially those with a job, family etc.

No, my strength hasn't decreased. I mean, I probably can't bench as much but I'm incredibly strong on the mat. Note that I still strength train and have a specific strength building routine, I just don't lift weights and I don't train to failure at all.
 

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Doing strength training to failure a few times per week and doing sprints a couple of times per week plus boxing, wrestling, BJJ etc is too much for most people, especially those with a job, family etc.

No, my strength hasn't decreased. I mean, I probably can't bench as much but I'm incredibly strong on the mat. Note that I still strength train and have a specific strength building routine, I just don't lift weights and I don't train to failure at all.
Thought that was the case.
 

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Doing strength training to failure a few times per week and doing sprints a couple of times per week plus boxing, wrestling, BJJ etc is too much for most people, especially those with a job, family etc.

No, my strength hasn't decreased. I mean, I probably can't bench as much but I'm incredibly strong on the mat. Note that I still strength train and have a specific strength building routine, I just don't lift weights and I don't train to failure at all.
Ive thrown on an additional day, we have a dip and chin up station at the park we walk the dog at.

My 4th day is supersetting chins and dips then hill sprints in between

FML

How detrimental do you think its gonna be to my PL numbers? one of the coaches had a heart attack when I told him but fuck it I dont want to be that fat PLer who waddles to the platform hits a huge PR but cant play games outdoors with their kids eh?
 

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Ive thrown on an additional day, we have a dip and chin up station at the park we walk the dog at.

My 4th day is supersetting chins and dips then hill sprints in between

FML

How detrimental do you think its gonna be to my PL numbers? one of the coaches had a heart attack when I told him but fuck it I dont want to be that fat PLer who waddles to the platform hits a huge PR but cant play games outdoors with their kids eh?
As long as you have adequate recovery, I think it will help your PLing.
 

Lord Vutulaki

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As long as you have adequate recovery, I think it will help your PLing.
Interesting, may I ask in which way? better conditioned for volume work or you mean the chins and dips as assists?

On recovery I could do with some advice too
Thats a bitch as I get older, not sure if you have them in your malls (or if you even have malls) but those little chinese massage places work wonders.

The thai places are great but the Chinese places seem like they are more in tune with your knots and what not while the Thai placed go through a set of motions

Outside of enough food, sleep and stretching do you have any preferred recovery methods?
 

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Interesting, may I ask in which way? better conditioned for volume work or you mean the chins and dips as assists?

On recovery I could do with some advice too
Thats a bitch as I get older, not sure if you have them in your malls (or if you even have malls) but those little chinese massage places work wonders.

The thai places are great but the Chinese places seem like they are more in tune with your knots and what not while the Thai placed go through a set of motions

Outside of enough food, sleep and stretching do you have any preferred recovery methods?
Yes, better conditioning and more strength.

For recovery, I have tried many things. The most effective I have found is to reduce intensity.
 

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Cause im retarded, delayed intensity = deload week?
No, replace weight with volume.

For example, if you're doing 5-3-1 4 days a week at 85% until failure, drop to 65-70% x 5 instead. And do it on 2 days.

If you're a mixed ability athlete (need strength, cardio, skills etc), don't try to build everything all at once. Choose one to focus on and put the others on maintenance.