The "Ask Erik Magraken" thread: All things combat law related

[Zeph]

Awesome thread...

This isn't a combat sports law question... But "what does the law say about this kind of combat" question... It might sound a little crazy.


I heard the Phoenix Jones guy can fist fight dudes in the street if they agree to "mutual combat" up in Washington. I live in Texas and heard they haven't gotten rid of the law that allowed "duals" and that this includes challenging a guy to a fight, and if they accept, then you can fight. Again, both of these are rumors I heard...

But here is my predicament. If a close friend or family member of mine (woman) is "trapped" in an abusive relationship with a multiple time convicted felon, meth dealer, illegal weapons guy... Is there a way I can I go have a "talk" with him without getting in trouble? The dude beat his mom, sister, and a pregnant girlfriend. I think a stern talk is in order... But I didn't know the legalities.

Thanks!

If there is no body, there is no crime.

 

[girlandcoconut]

An interesting piece of combat sports legal history there.

An arguable case can be made that athletes can be sued for assault if they perform while cheating with PED's. Here's my thoughts on that topic - What Do Sex, Condoms, PED’s and Mixed Martial Arts Have in Common? | Combat Sports Law

Condom sabotage. Smh. This is why I will demand proof of permanent, non-reversable vasectomy paperwork from now on. Geez.

 

[girlandcoconut]

I would be surprised if these go anywhere. I'm not aware of any common law duty that athletes have to the general public to disclose injuries to them so they can purchase tickets or a PPV on an 'informed' basis. Certainly Pacquiao's failure to properly disclose his injury to the AC can lead to regulatory consequences for him but I don't see disgruntled fans being able to claim damages based on his misrepresentation to a third party.

Yeah seems far-fetched. I mean, it would be like fans suing a fighter that didn't use PEDs because he lost against one that did.

 

[girlandcoconut]

I would imagine for anyone testing positive after these ranges are in force (supposedly September or October) all past positive tests would be fair game.

I have to applaud Nevada for finally taking the PED issue seriously (other than their hard to understand heavy stance on marijuana) this is a good thing for the integrity of the sport.

I'm very interested to see how this plays out. I've mostly been in the 'I really don't give a damn' camp but do believe that there should have at least been some way for fighters to know if they were fighting an opponent using PEDs. And I actually much prefer and have much more respect for natural athletes.

I thought this had the potential to go the other direction with it being allowed to some extent and with the commissions/orgs doing some kind of oversight so there would be transparency, at least fighters could make the choice if they wanted to go into the ring with a roided out opponent or not vs going in unknowingly and risking their face.

One reason I considered that is because it's been speculated that upwards of 75-80% of the fighters are using some form of PED or another. And extensive testing would seemingly be very cost prohibitive and then if the majority of your field is getting popped, it could create quite the fiasco.

And with these new stringent guidelines, I guess we will see if that scenario plays out. I also think just as with other things, the technology/science around PEDs seems to be one step ahead of that of the testing side of the house. Where there's a will, there's a way.

 

[La Paix]

Awesome thread...

This isn't a combat sports law question... But "what does the law say about this kind of combat" question... It might sound a little crazy.


I heard the Phoenix Jones guy can fist fight dudes in the street if they agree to "mutual combat" up in Washington. I live in Texas and heard they haven't gotten rid of the law that allowed "duals" and that this includes challenging a guy to a fight, and if they accept, then you can fight. Again, both of these are rumors I heard...

But here is my predicament. If a close friend or family member of mine (woman) is "trapped" in an abusive relationship with a multiple time convicted felon, meth dealer, illegal weapons guy... Is there a way I can I go have a "talk" with him without getting in trouble? The dude beat his mom, sister, and a pregnant girlfriend. I think a stern talk is in order... But I didn't know the legalities.

Thanks!

Please wear a GoPro during your talk then upload it here once your hands heal up enough to type.