The definitive comparison of GSP and Fedor

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Tuc Ouiner

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although that fat country guy was rockin a good one too. just not trimmed as well. this is not to imply any meterosexual leanings of the irish one.
 

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I just don't think Fedor fought the level of competition necessary or was technical enough to be considered for the #1 spot.

Then he got pieced up by guys like Silva, Hendo, etc. He had a life and death battle with Maldonado ffs, and got a gift draw.

When you look at GSP you're looking at a top athlete with the fight IQ and focus to match.

Jones was proven to be a steroid cheat so that DQs him.

If MMA had no rules against PEDs, Jon Jones would probably be the greatest of all time. But then again, then Jones' opponents would be able to cheat too, so who knows? GSP fought his opponents on a level playing field.
 
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Take out Conor and put in Fedor at that spot and you have something accurate

Conor does not even get into my top 40 alltime in terms of fighting.

PPV he is the number 1 ever, but fighter, long way to go to even break the top 20 lol
Fedor is not even a top 20 heavyweight
 

tang

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I'm not going to try and argue that GSP was a risk taker but that's how he got 11 title fights and won 9 in a row. I can fully appreciate the big risk takers like Alvarez, they bring tons of excitement which is always great. But I can also appreciate a guy like GSP who could dominate so many consistently. You say "if he fought like that his entire career, he wouldn't have such a perfect anything" as if his acheivements are a bad thing, or his approach to deliver the most damage while taking the least is a bad thing. One of his biggest criticisms is being boring yet he proved to be a huge draw, people wanted to watch him fight.


Also that wasn't the only time he fought like that. His earlier fights were nothing short of awesome, IMO of course. Karo, Heiron, the Hughes trilogy, Miller, Trigg, Sherk... Those were great fiights to watch. I thought it was unanimously agreed that his style became much less risky after Serra knocked him out. Even some later fights like Condit and Fitch were exciting.
I agree with what you're saying but I was speaking from my criteria of why I choose one fighter over the other.
Gsp had his moments but for the most part, he plays safe, like when he was beating shit outta Nick Diaz, still wanted to finish the fight safe. Compare that to Fedor, who's taking greater risk with hard hitting heavyweights, always, ALWAYS taking risks and because of that, I prefer Fedor over GSP.
 

Silverball

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This is exactly what I didn't want to get into. Rumours have been afoot forever about everyone within Pride juicing. I honestly don't know enough about it back then.

Don't say I was "argumentative". There wasn't one.
There used to be rumours that 80-90% of UFC fighters were using PEDs as well, started in most cases by other UFC fighters. Rogan uses that 'everyone in Pride juiced' argument to take Fedor out of any GOAT discussions, but still refers to Jon Jones and Anderson Silva as GOATS, both of whom have popped multiple times for PEDs, with both claiming erectile dysfunction to escape longer suspensions. Whenever you start to think the UFC was somehow cleaner than any other organization prior to USADA, just remember that Brock Lesnar fought Ubereem and neither fighter popped for a banned substance that night.

 

Rambo John J

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I just don't think Fedor fought the level of competition necessary or was technical enough to be considered for the #1 spot.
FYI earlier in thread you claimed Fedor was a "skilled technician"

The guy is the definition of technical

Undersized fighters need to use skill

GSP was as big or bigger than most of his opponents and he used size a lot to grind on guys
 
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Silverball

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Brock popped to USADA.
He popped twice.

"Lesnar failed an out-of-competition test conducted by the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency, the UFC’s anti-doping partner, in connection with UFC 200, which took place July 9 at T-Mobile Arena in Las Vegas. He also failed a fight-night test. Lesnar and Jones tested positive for the estrogen blocker clomiphene, and Jones also tested positive for another estrogen blocker, letrozole."
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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He popped twice.

"Lesnar failed an out-of-competition test conducted by the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency, the UFC’s anti-doping partner, in connection with UFC 200, which took place July 9 at T-Mobile Arena in Las Vegas. He also failed a fight-night test. Lesnar and Jones tested positive for the estrogen blocker clomiphene, and Jones also tested positive for another estrogen blocker, letrozole."
I didn't think that was any kind of secret to anyone. Unless you're trying to create an equivalency between USADA tests and the older "Hey, you want to come in next week and piss in a cup for us?" tests.