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KWingJitsu

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Nov 15, 2015
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Doesn't England pre-date the United Kingdom?


Is that what he said, or did he say "used to"?
Did you even watch the video?
What is England called today?


Don't bother answering me. Your reading comprehension is notoriously poor, especially when you're seeking attention-by-argument.
Maybe you and the alternative math guy can circle jerk to the hidden meaning of ("the best") words?
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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Jul 22, 2015
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Is that what he said, or did he say "used to"?
He said "used to". In the context of someone taking a trip to London if they said "I was in the U.K. It used to be called England." it is technically correct. Now, Trump is a buffoon and more than likely misspoke, but that doesn't make the statement inherently wrong.

Did you even watch the video?
Yes.

What is England called today?
England, United Kingdom and Great Britain are all technically correct.
 

KWingJitsu

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He said "used to". In the context of someone taking a trip to London if they said "I was in the U.K. It used to be called England." it is technically correct. Now, Trump is a buffoon and more than likely misspoke, but that doesn't make the statement inherently wrong.



Yes.



England, United Kingdom and Great Britain are all technically correct.
Wow.

You actually answered my questions - check
No name-calling - check
You feeling okay today? Just checking.

Notwithstanding, England is a part of Great Britain.

His exact words were:

"I have great respect for, the UK. United Kingdom. Great respect.
People call it Britain they call it Great Britain. They call it.... they used to call it England. Different parts."


The implication is they used to call "Great Britain", "England".
Of course, with his buffoonish sentence structure and manner of speaking in incomplete sentences, he could 'mean' anything.
But if a normal person constructed that sentence, that's what it would mean.
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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Jul 22, 2015
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You feeling okay today? Just checking.
Feeling great. For future reference, I've always been very careful to refrain from name-calling you or anyone else on this site.

The implication is they used to call "Great Britain", "England".
Of course, with his buffoonish sentence structure and manner of speaking in incomplete sentences, he could 'mean' anything.
But if a normal person constructed that sentence, that's what it would mean.
This is absolutely correct. The thing is, even if by accident, he didn't say anything technically wrong. He said that they used to call it England which is true. Now it's called Great Britain, United Kingdom, and England as oppose to just England. Again, completely by accident and more than likely not what he meant but ultimately what he said wasn't wrong and HuffPo is misreporting it because they hate him. I can even understand why media outlets don't like Donald Trump, but when they stop doing their job because they want to stick it to him they start to prove his point.
 

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Had the pleasure of listening to those two numbskulls yakking away.

Nothing funnier than seeing a dumb jock like Lebron trying to sound poignant. "Trump is using sport to divide us" - right, and refusing to stand for the national anthem wasn't? You dope.

It's incredible to see the stupidity in action when someone actually claims Trump is dividing the country. Like before 2016, American was one unified political party, everyone agreed on everything, no differing ideologies whatsoever, and sudden Trump comes along and splits the country down the middle. The saddest part is that there are actual "JOURNALISTS" who make this claim in the mainstream media. And they wonder why trust in mainstream media is declining?

Trump played the anthem controversy perfectly: OF COURSE the leader of a nation should speak out when some spoiled rich meatheads are openly disrespecting it in front of millions. That's what a leader does. What a leader DOESN'T do is throw hardworking American law enforcement under the bus, like Obama has done and would have done again in that situation.
 

Sex Chicken

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Who does Trump go after an insult their intelligence? Lebron James, Maxine Walters, Don Lemon, NFL football players. Mexican immigrants.

He knows who it’s safe to go after, he knows to stoke the racial fires with his base, to keep them loyal enough to “believe” his war on journalism, and overlook his obvious corruption, and about to be confirmed collision.

More and more it’s looking to be like the only thing holding his base together is either willful ignorance, or just straight racism.
 
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Who does Trump go after an insult their intelligence? Lebron James, Maxine Walters, Don Lemon, NFL football players. Mexican immigrants.

He knows who it’s safe to go after, he knows to stoke the racial fires with his base, to keep them loyal enough to “believe” his war on journalism, and overlook his obvious corruption, and about to be confirmed collision.

More and more it’s looking to be like the only thing holding his base together is either willful ignorance, or just straight racism.
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Freeloading Rusty

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Nothing funnier than seeing a dumb jock like Lebron trying to sound poignant. "Trump is using sport to divide us" - right, and refusing to stand for the national anthem wasn't? You dope.
I didn’t realize we held sports athletes to the same standard as the POTUS.
 

Freeloading Rusty

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What a leader DOESN'T do is throw hardworking American law enforcement under the bus, like Obama has done and would have done again in that situation.
So the FBI, CIA and DOJ don’t count as hardworking American law enforcement agencies?
 

jason73

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Who doesnt insult maxine waters and don lemons intelligence? They are both foaming at the mouth deranged lunatics
 

Freeloading Rusty

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I quoted the article you posted homeslice.
You can't say trumps increasing poverty and then in the same article say the last bit of data you have is from before he was president .
Those tax cuts also increase the amount back per kid so there's that.
Internal Documents Show How Trump Administration Misled Public on Poverty
After a U.N. agency issued a report in May on the state of poverty in the United States, concluding that 40 million Americans are poor and more than 5 million live in “Third World conditions,” the Trump administration ridiculed the findings.

In an unusually harsh statement the following month, the administration labeled the report “inaccurate, inflammatory and irresponsible,” and included its own data in a rebuttal.

But according to internal State Department emails and a document obtained by Foreign Policy and Coda Story, a nonprofit crisis reporting website, the economic officials consulted on a draft of the rebuttal questioned the accuracy of the data the administration was citing.

Their comments, typed into the margins of the draft or included in emails, were either watered down or ignored altogether. As a result, the statement the administration issued in June included misleading data and painted an overly optimistic picture of the American economy.

Next to a line in the draft which reads: “The U.S. is entering a new era of economic growth and prosperity,” an official from the White House Council of Economic Advisers remarked that the economic growth had long predated Trump and said the trajectory might not last.

“Already 8-9 years long … which started under Obama and we inherited and then expanded. But it will end prob in 1 – 2 years. So I’d not get into this,” the official wrote.

Again, the final version of the statement, put out by the U.S. Mission to Geneva on June 22, ignored the suggestion and used the original language.

In some cases, comments by the officials did prompt a change in the text.

“Wages haven’t really picked up, other than for supervisors,” one official from the Council of Economic Advisers wrote in response to a line in the draft about salaries going up. The line was deleted from the final statement. “This triggers the left—best to leave it off,” the official wrote.

The Office of the U.N. High Commissioner for Human Rights report included a harsh condemnation of the Trump administration’s economic policies, saying in part that tax cuts and reductions in social spending had exacerbated inequality in the country. Though it cited the United States’ own Census Bureau for the data on poverty, the report triggered broad anger across the administration.

The United States has been sharply critical of the U.N. Human Rights Council for years, accusing it of having a chronic bias against Israel. The poverty report seemed to heighten tensions dramatically.
 

Freeloading Rusty

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Liberals Are the Real Nazis, Says Donald Trump Jr. Actual Nazis Disagree.
Donald Trump Jr. emerged from an advance screening of the latest cinematic triumph by pardoned felon Dinesh D’Souza burbling with a previously dormant enthusiasm for historical inquiry. “When you have a bunch of kids in dreadlocks running around screaming about ‘fascism’ and all these things,” he explained, “it’s like, wait a second, have you actually taken a history class, do you actually know what these words mean that you’re running around and spewing. And I think they don’t.”

Anything that inspires Donald Trump Jr. to want to learn more would seem to be laudable. Sadly, Trump Jr. is not proposing that today’s youth should take more history classes. Indeed, he maintains that history classes are filled with lies promoted by liberal academic elites. Instead, he wishes the dreadlocked youth would pay more attention to the revisionist history promoted by D’Souza in his latest film, Death of a Nation, which opens in theaters nationwide tonight. In it, D’Souza continues his long-standing contention that racists and fascists of the far right are actually the true allies of the liberal left. “You see the Nazi platform in the early 1930s … and you look at it compared to like, the DNC platform of today, you’re saying, man, those things are awfully similar,” said Trump Jr.

D’Souza’s case follows a long-standing tradition of conservative polemic, which attempts to boldly redefine the ideological spectrum. Rather than accept the conventional terms of the debate, in which conservatism occupies a spot on the continuum between liberalism and fascism, they define fascism as an ideology of the left, the complete opposite of conservatism. Relatedly, and even more preposterously, they insist that white racism is also associated with the American left, rather than the right.

Jonah Goldberg’s 2008 book, Liberal Fascism, defined Hitler and Mussolini as merely having more extreme versions of ideas proposed by American liberals like Hillary Clinton. His National Review colleague, Kevin Williamson, has likewise argued that the racist, states’-rights-fixated ideology of the conservative white South is best expressed by the Obama-era Democratic party, rather than the GOP. D’Souza has enthusiastically taken up both these claims.

It is of course true that in the United States, the Democrats of the 19th century were fervent defenders of slavery, drew their strongest support from the white South, and who (relatedly) hated big government and believed the Constitution should be interpreted to strictly limit Washington’s ability to abridge property rights through taxes or regulation. And it was the Republicans who opposed slavery, had support from New Englanders and African-Americans (when and where they were allowed to vote), and supported activist federal government. Over the course of the 20th century, the two parties switched identities. The reversal was hastened by the conservative movement takeover of the Republican Party. Conservatives loudly opposed their party leadership’s support for civil rights, and argued that the party could move to the right and expand its support by appealing to anti-integration whites.

Having succeeded in that stated goal, conservatives today find it necessary to renounce the very ideological project they carried out. Their revisionist argument rests on pretending the comprehensive identity swap between the two parties never took place.

It is likewise true that Nazis and fascists were not Reaganite enthusiasts for small government. Because fascism took power in a context far removed from early 21st-century American politics, it was easy for conservative revisionists to pluck disconnected items from the fascist agenda in order to place them on the left. The Big Reveal of D’Souza’s film, which so impressed Trump, is that the Nazi platform called for universal health care, attacked bankers, and so on.


And yes, Nazis successfully co-opted some of the populist economic appeal of their socialist rivals while separating themselves with racist, nationalist, and authoritarian appeals. But this point carries much less force in an era when the Republican Party is led by a man who is doing the exact same thing. Donald Trump also promised government-run health care for everybody. See Trump’s closing ad in the 2016 election, leaning heavily on attacks on international (and, coincidentally, Jewish-sounding) bankers:


Before Trump came along, the gap between mainstream Republican politics and Nazism was wide enough that one could not easily draw a straight line between the two. Under Trump, that line has been erased. Trump is not a Nazi or a fascist, but he has drawn Nazis into the periphery of his coalition.

While conservatives like D’Souza are trying to attach the legacy of the 19th-century Democratic Party to the very different modern incarnation, Trump is out there loudly claiming that legacy for himself by casting his own presidency as the heir to Andrew Jackson’s. If today’s Democrats are the modern equivalent of the 19th-century pro-slavery Democrats, why are they trying to take down Confederate memorials, while Republicans like Trump defend them?

It is bizarre that conservatives are still attempting to surmise, through indirect inquiry, what Nazis would say about politics today when there are actual Nazis who are happy to pick up a tiki torch and tell us. There is no mystery here. The people who proudly lay claim to the legacy of the Confederacy and Nazism are openly enthusiastic about Trump. They are fine with his economic populism, and gaga for his nativism.

Calling modern liberals the Real Nazis and neo-Confederates was a fun troll for the right. You can’t troll your opponents as Nazis when there are proud Nazis out there marching for you.

Anything that inspires Donald, Trump Jr. to want to learn more would seem to be laudable. Sadly, Trump, Jr. is not proposing that today’s youth should take more history classes. Indeed, he maintains that history classes are filled with lies promoted by liberal academic elites. Instead, he wishes the dreadlocked youth would pay more attention to the revisionist history promoted by D’Souza in his latest film, “Death of a Nation, which opens in theaters nationwide tonight. In it, D’Souza continues his longstanding contention that racists and fascists of the far right are actually the true allies of the liberal left. “You see the Nazi platform in the early 1930s … and you look at it compared to like, the DNC platform of today, you’re saying, man, those things are awfully similar.”

D’Souza’s case follows a longstanding tradition of conservative polemic, which attempts to boldly redefine the ideological spectrum. Rather than accept the conventional terms of the debate, in which conservatism occupies a spot on the continuum between liberalism and fascism, they define fascism as an ideology of the left, the complete opposite of conservatism. Relatedly, and even more preposterously, they insist that white racism is also associated with the American left, rather than the right.

Jonah Goldberg’s 2008 “Liberal Fascism” defined Hitler and Mussolini as merely more extreme versions of ideas proposed by American liberals like Hillary Clinton. His National Review colleague, Kevin Williamson, has likewise argued that the racist, states’ rights-fixated ideology of the conservative white South is best expressed by the Obama-era Democratic party, rather than the GOP. D’Souza has enthusiastically taken up both these claims.

It is of course true that in the United States, the Democrats of the 19th century were fervent defenders of slavery, drew their strongest support from the white South, and who (relatedly) hated big government and believed the Constitution should be interpreted to strictly limit Washington’s ability to abridge property rights through taxes or regulation. And it was the Republicans who opposed slavery, had support from New Englanders and African-Americans (when and where they were allowed to vote), and supported activist federal government. Over the course of the 20th century, the two parties switched identities. The reversal was hastened by the conservative movement takeover of the Republican party. Conservatives loudly opposed their party leadership’s support for civil rights, and argued that the party could move to the right and expand its support by appealing to anti-integration whites.

Having succeeded in that stated goal, conservatives today find it necessary to renounce the very ideological project they carried out. Their revisionist argument rests on pretending the comprehensive identity swap between the two parties never took place.

It is likewise true that Nazis and fascists were not Reaganite enthusiasts for small government. Because fascism took power in a context far removed from early 21st century American politics, it was easy for conservative revisionists to pluck disconnected items from the fascist agenda in order to place them on the left. The Big Reveal of D’Souza’s film, which so impressed Trump, is that the Nazi platform called for universal health care, attacked bankers, and so on.

And yes, Nazis successfully co-opted some of the populist economic appeal of their socialist rivals while separating themselves with racist, nationalist and authoritarian appeals. But this point carries much less force in an era when the Republican party is led by a man who is doing the exact same thing. Donald Trump also promised government-run health care for everybody. Trump’s closing ad in the 2016 election, leaning heavily on attacks on international (and, coincidentally, Jewish-sounding) bankers:

Before Trump came along, the gap between mainstream Republican politics and Nazism was wide enough that one could not easily draw a straight line between the two. Under Trump, that line has erased. Trump is not a Nazi or a fascist, but he has drawn Nazis into the periphery of his coalition.

While conservatives like D’Souza are trying to attach the legacy of the 19th century Democratic party to the very different modern incarnation, Trump is out there loudly claiming that legacy for himself by casting his own presidency as the heir to Andrew Jackson. If today’s Democrats are the modern equivalent of the 19th century pro-slavery Democrats, why are they trying to take down Confederate memorials, while Republicans like Trump defend them?

It is bizarre that conservatives are still attempting to surmise, through indirect inquiry, what Nazis would say about politics today when there are actual Nazis who are happy to pick up a tiki torch and tell us. There is no mystery here. The people who proudly lay claim to the legacy of the Confederacy and Nazism are openly enthusiastic about Trump. They are fine with his economic populism, and gaga for his nativism.

Calling modern liberals The Real Nazis and Neo-Confederates was a fun troll for the right. You can’t troll your opponents as Nazis when there are actual Nazis out there marching for you.
 

Ted Williams' head

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Sep 23, 2015
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Who does Trump go after an insult their intelligence? Lebron James, Maxine Walters, Don Lemon, NFL football players. Mexican immigrants.

He knows who it’s safe to go after, he knows to stoke the racial fires with his base, to keep them loyal enough to “believe” his war on journalism, and overlook his obvious corruption, and about to be confirmed collision.

More and more it’s looking to be like the only thing holding his base together is either willful ignorance, or just straight racism.
LMAO@ accusing Trump of playing it safe.

Yeah, going after those people is REAL safe - he's NEVER got any flack for going after those soft targets. It's not like he's labelled racist every single day by liberals and mainstream media for *GASP* going after ILLEGAL immigrants.

Seeing Trump being accused of playing it safe is one of the more... uh, interesting things I've read lol
 

Ted Williams' head

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You did by comparing them as equals.

If you weren't comparing them as equals, you post comes off even more stupid.

So which is it?
Here's the part you quoted:

Nothing funnier than seeing a dumb jock like Lebron trying to sound poignant. "Trump is using sport to divide us" - right, and refusing to stand for the national anthem wasn't? You dope.

Now please explain to the class where I tried to hold Lebron up to the same standard as a POTUS.

Sentence one: I find humour in dumb jocks trying to sound smart.

Sentence two: I think what he said is stupid as fuck.

Sentence three: I call him a dope.

So yeah, if you could should where I insinuated an athlete should be held to the same standard as a president, that'd be great lol