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BeardOfKnowledge

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Doesn’t change the numbers. What I said stands correct. It’s too bad Trump let shit get so bad that things had to get shut down.

Jobs numbers were better when Trump took office than they were when Trump left office.

Why didn’t you bring up the state of the economy Obama inherited? Why is it always an economic collapse under a republican president?

Jobs numbers under Obama, were worse when he took office then when he left office.

Reframe it how you want but what I said is correct.
Who was most responsible for the housing market crash?
 

Hauler

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Doesn’t change the numbers. What I said stands correct. It’s too bad Trump let shit get so bad that things had to get shut down.

Why didn’t you bring up the state of the economy Obama inherited? Why is it always an economic collapse under a republican president?

Reframe it how you want but what I said is correct.
Obama inherited a shit show. I never inferred otherwise. His recovery could have been much, much better but he didn't create the clusterfuck we had in 2008. That was years in the making.

Like him or not, the economy was killing it under Trump. Could he have been a better leader during the shutdown? Of course. Should he have had a better plan for distributing the vaccine he kicked ass to get? Of course. But the economy getting shut down would have happened regardless of who was in the White House.

Using job loss data due to the Covid shutdown is disingenuous.
 

TheFifthScallop

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Obama inherited a shit show. I never inferred otherwise. His recovery could have been much, much better but he didn't create the clusterfuck we had in 2008. That was years in the making.

Like him or not, the economy was killing it under Trump. Could he have been a better leader during the shutdown? Of course. Should he have had a better plan for distributing the vaccine he kicked ass to get? Of course. But the economy getting shut down would have happened regardless of who was in the White House.

Using job loss data due to the Covid shutdown is disingenuous.
It’s easy to have a killer economy when you inherit one, and then expand on it.
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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The Bush administration.
Nope. He inherited that disaster from Bubba. He irresponsibly kicked the can down the road, but it wasn't his baby.

In the late 90s, the Federal National Mortgage Association, or Fannie Mae as it’s commonly known, began its crusade to make home loans accessible to borrowers with a lower credit score.

Fannie Mae wanted everyone to attain the American dream of homeownership, regardless of credit. Lenders who extended home loans to high-risk borrowers offered mortgages with unconventional terms to reflect the increased likelihood of default.

The relaxed lending standards fueled the housing growth and corresponding rise in home values. People with bad credit and little-to-no savings were offered loans they could not afford. Meanwhile, banks were repackaging these mortgages and selling them to investors on the secondary market.
 

Freeloading Rusty

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Jan 11, 2016
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But the economy getting shut down would have happened regardless of who was in the White House.
It didn’t have to be such a shit show.

Trump just built off the foundation Obama built for him and the fucked it all up.

Worst unemployment numbers in the history of America.
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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It’s easy to have a killer economy when you inherit one, and then expand on it.
Trump inherited a government created bubble as the market never corrected after 08-09. He irresponsibly decided to ride it into the ground because the numbers were an easy sell to morons. Trump dodged a bullet when a pandemic popped the bubble instead of the smoke and mirrors market doing it itself. Of course he then jumped in front of a train called covid.
 

Hauler

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It didn’t have to be such a shit show.

Trump just built off the foundation Obama built for him and the fucked it all up.

Worst unemployment numbers in the history of America.
Not sure you really believe that, but...
 

Freeloading Rusty

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I’m confused, do you MAGA kids support the policy of child detention at the border or oppose it?
 

Hauler

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I’m confused, do you MAGA kids support the policy of child detention at the border or oppose it?
I support not having borders so fucking weak that kids can enter.

Kid border crossing has increased significantly under Biden. Some 4200 kids are currently being detained.

It's a crisis whether you want to admit it or not.
 

Freeloading Rusty

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I support not having borders so fucking weak that kids can enter.

Kid border crossing has increased significantly under Biden. Some 4200 kids are currently being detained.

It's a crisis whether you want to admit it or not.
So you do or don’t support the Biden policy of detention of children?
 

Freeloading Rusty

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Kid border crossing has increased significantly under Biden. Some 4200 kids are currently being detained.

Are you sure about that?

2019...
The detentions, which include both unaccompanied children and children with their families, peaked last year at over 300,000
Every president sees an influx. This shit comes in waves. Obama did in 2014 and Trump did in 2019... now it’s Biden’s turn in 2021.