General The Supreme Court has overturned Roe vs Wade.

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Approve of federally-protected access to legal abortion being overturned?

  • Yes, it's murder

  • No, it's a woman's right to choose

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FINGERS

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I didn’t say everyone that has one is trashy but I have the right to decide on a case by case

No you don't.

You have zero rights over any adult person apart from yourself.

You can have an opinion. But they are like arseholes. Everyone has one.
 
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I don’t believe I’ve asked anyone other than you a doctor about prior to 20ish week abortion. If I did please post so I don’t mistake you putting words on my mouth.
My statement was about position.
Feel free to State at any time. You keep holding everybody else accountable to state theirs.
Right here:

What about if the cord hasn’t been cut and the baby’s out? Still part of her body?
You’re ok with killing the baby minutes before it’s born?
 

FINGERS

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This is such an American argument.

Its just so stupid. It typifies the level of dumbness merikans are forced to argue.

The deflection and smoke and mirrors your politicians use is shameless.

You are easily the thickest Western nation. And it's clearly done on purpose.

You argue semantics over a thing that you all largely agree on as your political class do shady shit. It's pathetic how uneducated you are.

I'm scared Johnson is using you as a template for us and using the covid bollocks to scare everyone now over inflation. Its always something. Yet. If they want they can conjure up 400 billion.

The real issue is 45 million tonnes of grain sitting in odessa needing to be distributed. That's what making the food prices scare happening.

The fact that some countries are in a 10 year drought.

But let's argue semantics

Trump is the devil.

We actually need a pax America to be strong now. And we have a hollow man in the white house who can barely walk and speak as our leader.

No wonder we are fucked.

I feel sorry for anyone under 30. They will reap this shit.

The poor people that is. This won't affect the rich. As always.
 
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But let's argue semantics
I'm not arguing semantics.
Roe V Wade shouldn't be overturned. It's a decent compromise of private and public interest. We shouldn't even be spending bandwidth on it. Those that have sucked us into this are zealots.
 

FINGERS

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I'm not arguing semantics.
Roe V Wade shouldn't be overturned. It's a decent compromise of private and public interest. We shouldn't even be spending bandwidth on it. Those that have sucked us into this are zealots.

Its a deflection.
 

FINGERS

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Whilst you're arguing this the right are making voting not a right but a privilege
 
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Its a deflection.
Only if you consider all of the Christian nationalism as a deflection.

As I posted here:

The means of monopolizing the airwaves with loaded questions is indeed a deflection. They don't give a shit and are just looking to score points for other reasons
But the movement to ban abortion completely is real and a legit ideology for many.
 

FINGERS

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Only if you consider all of the Christian nationalism as a deflection.

As I posted here:

The means of monopolizing the airwaves with loaded questions is indeed a deflection. They don't give a shit and are just looking to score points for other reasons
But the movement to ban abortion completely is real and a legit ideology for many.

You're missing the bigger picture.

Corporate American capitalism from Reagan is being weaponised again.

Its as bad as communism.

Look at how the richest country treats its poor.

You'd think we'd learn. But money is the root of all evil.

I've said it before. This system will end by the end of this century. The right see this. And are getting their ducks in a row.

We should be a resource based global economy.
 
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You're missing the bigger picture

No I get what you're saying. There opportunists using valance issues to galvanizr and distract.
I'm just saying the abortion thing isnt just that momentary topic. It's a deeply religious topic that is day to day for many. And of course that's being abused for policy and power.
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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I think you got your wires crossed on that post friendo
The Court resolved this balancing test by tying state regulation of abortion to the three trimesters of pregnancy: during the first trimester, governments could not prohibit abortions at all; during the second trimester, governments could require reasonable health regulations; during the third trimester, abortions could be prohibited entirely so long as the laws contained exceptions for cases when they were necessary to save the life or health of the mother.[5] The Court classified the right to choose to have an abortion as "fundamental", which required courts to evaluate challenged abortion laws under the "strict scrutiny" standard, the highest level of judicial review in the United States.[6]
On a related note. My hyper-progressive sister in law was in NYC last weekend. While there she went to a Roe v Wade decision protest. Those protestors also don't agree with you that this is centered around 20 weeks:

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Filthy

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I'm not arguing semantics.
Roe V Wade shouldn't be overturned. It's a decent compromise of private and public interest. We shouldn't even be spending bandwidth on it. Those that have sucked us into this are zealots.
Or sit on the board at Pfizer
 

kaladin stormblessed

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How big is an embryo after one month?

If you guessed just 4 inches, you are close

technically, but not really

At one month, an embryo is about 0.25" or the size of a grain of rice
 
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How big is an embryo after one month?

If you guessed just 4 inches, you are close

technically, but not really

At one month, an embryo is about 0.25" or the size of a grain of rice

Imo size is really just an emotional play. It's less "gross".

The real question is ethical about the fetus development, pain, nervous system, etc.

Then there's the ethical and technical aspects of access for a woman.
Hard to hold her accountable if you make her save money and travel for states away to terminate when her decision was made 8 weeks earlier.
We regularly wait until 18-22 weeks to find many major abnormalities that might cuz a woman to decide to abort. That information wasn't available earlier. Judging just on time is arbitrary and ignorant unless only discussing elective termination for nonfetal related reasons.
 

kaladin stormblessed

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Imo size is really just an emotional play. It's less "gross".

The real question is ethical about the fetus development, pain, nervous system, etc.

Then there's the ethical and technical aspects of access for a woman.
Hard to hold her accountable if you make her save money and travel for states away to terminate when her decision was made 8 weeks earlier.
We regularly wait until 18-22 weeks to find many major abnormalities that might cuz a woman to decide to abort. That information wasn't available earlier. Judging just on time is arbitrary and ignorant unless only discussing elective termination for nonfetal related reasons.
Agreed. Ive never had a desire to have kids, so I had never looked into it until last week.

When i saw that, I was surprised, so I figured I'd share
 

Speaker to Animals

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Just saw a poll showing 64% of adults are against overturning RVW.

But what the fuck does it matter what most people want? We need to let religious fundamentalists run the show
 
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Bro, when did everything become political teams for you?
The question wasn't about the safety of prescription versus over-the-counter birth control. There's a literal goal to actual legislation to ban abortion and some birth control.

Also you've bit hard... Hook line and sinker by the team sports.

When you’re surrounded by asshole yankee fans it’s easy to root for the blue jays.

also please feel free break down my political beliefs .
I’ll start
1-Any abortion after 20-24 weeks is killing a baby
2- People should have to prove they exist to vote
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