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Second time he's missed weight in the UFC. First time he weighed 176 lol
 

Juanandonly

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I usually watch all of Wills movies but for some reason that one has escaped me. Queuing it up!!
You will not be disappointed. Every time that movie comes on I have to watch it no matter at what point it is. It drives my wife crazy
 

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Pretty weak IMO. I just can't support fighters who aren't professional enough to make weight.
 

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Fight is going to happen. Stephen gets 30% of Till’s purse, Till can’t be over 188 tomorrow
 

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He probably missed weight because he was pity eating after PVZ got engaged... He does have her tattoo'd on his arm...:D
 

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UFC Fight Night 130 weigh-in results: Darren Till heavy but headliner still on (Updated)

(Story updated at 9:58 a.m. ET to reflect that Thompson vs. Till is officially on under certain terms despite Till’s weight miss.)

LIVERPOOL, England – MMAjunkie was on scene and reporting live from today’s early and official UFC Fight Night 130 fighter weigh-ins.

The early weigh-ins took place at the UFC host hotel in Liverpool, England, prior to ceremonial weigh-ins for the fans, which take place at 10 a.m. ET at Echo Arena. The same venue hosts Sunday’s event, which airs on FS1 following early prelims on UFC Fight Pass.

Among those hitting the scales were former welterweight title challenger Stephen Thompson (14-2-1 MMA, 9-2-1 UFC) and fellow headliner Darren Till (16-0-1 MMA, 4-0-1 UFC), who was granted additional time to make weight by UFC officials due to a “family emergency” but still came up short at 174.5 pounds.

Despite Till’s miss, his fight with Thompson will go on under certain terms.



View: https://twitter.com/MMAjunkieJohn/status/1000375170866073600?s=19
 

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At least the fight is still on. I'd love to see wonderboy break the missed weight winning streak.

Despite missing weight, if til was seriously that much over weight it sounds like he still would have had a rough cut. Might favour Wonderboy anyway
 
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If I were Wonderboy I'd turn down the fight or demand double the purse to take it. Does him no favours to fight a guy who will likely have a weight class worth of weight on him.

Sad situation. You can forgive guys who miscalculate and miss by point-something of a pound, but when you're missing by 3.5 that's just unprofessional.

I think the UFC should put in a rule that if you miss by 2lbs or more, the fight is automatically called off, your opponent gets their full pay + win bonus and you get nothing.
There's a reason why fighters consistently miss weight, it pays off more often than not.
But I don't think it's the final weight during fight night that makes the difference, it's the mental break of not having to cut the extra weight.
By avoiding that extra bit of misery, Till has given himself a big advantage.
 
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At least the fight is still on. I'd love to see wonderboy break the missed weight winning streak.

Despite missing weight, if til was seriously that much over weight it sounds like he still would have had a rough cut. Might favour Wonderboy anyway
I think it more likely he had never intended to make weight in the first place.
 

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it's almost like it's a tactic that has a proven track record of success...
It's not.




These paragraphs aren't in order, I just selected a few to give you an idea. Much more details if you click on link .

Since the UFC introduced its early weigh-in procedures in June 2016, the promotion has held 72 events. During that time, they have held 42 matches in which one fighter missed weight, with the bout only going forward after the opponent agreed to participate in a catchweight encounter. (Nine additional matches were canceled completely due to weight-cutting issues.)

The results are interesting.

In those 42 bouts, the fighter who missed weight emerged victorious the majority of the time, with a record of 23 wins and 19 losses (54.8% win percentage).


But that alone does not offer meaningful information. The data can be broken down further to reveal another trend, and that is this: Fighters who missed weight but were already favored to win by oddsmakers were much more likely to emerge victorious than those who missed weight but were underdogs.

In fact, Romero was one of only a handful of underdogs who missed weight to leave with a win. Underdogs missing weight went just 7-14 (33.3%) in their 21 tries. By contrast, betting favorites who missed weight went 16-5 (76.2%) during that time.

So what can we glean from this information?

First off, all things considered, an extra pound or two doesn’t seem to make much difference in winning or losing. If your opponent misses weight, there is almost no statistical advantage, as in 63 fights with competitors that missed weight, the offending party went just 31-32.

Second, underdogs are slightly more likely to miss weight. Thirty-five out of 63 fighters to miss weight were underdogs (55.6 percent).

And finally, if you are an underdog who misses weight, it might be worth considering skipping the fight altogether, because your chances of victory are not strong. Underdogs who failed to hit their number went 12-23 over those 144 events (a poor 34.3 winning percentage).

Is missing weight an advantage or a detriment on fight night?
 
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It's not.




These paragraphs aren't in order, I just selected a few to give you an idea. Much more details if you click on link .

Since the UFC introduced its early weigh-in procedures in June 2016, the promotion has held 72 events. During that time, they have held 42 matches in which one fighter missed weight, with the bout only going forward after the opponent agreed to participate in a catchweight encounter. (Nine additional matches were canceled completely due to weight-cutting issues.)

The results are interesting.

In those 42 bouts, the fighter who missed weight emerged victorious the majority of the time, with a record of 23 wins and 19 losses (54.8% win percentage).


But that alone does not offer meaningful information. The data can be broken down further to reveal another trend, and that is this: Fighters who missed weight but were already favored to win by oddsmakers were much more likely to emerge victorious than those who missed weight but were underdogs.

In fact, Romero was one of only a handful of underdogs who missed weight to leave with a win. Underdogs missing weight went just 7-14 (33.3%) in their 21 tries. By contrast, betting favorites who missed weight went 16-5 (76.2%) during that time.

So what can we glean from this information?

First off, all things considered, an extra pound or two doesn’t seem to make much difference in winning or losing. If your opponent misses weight, there is almost no statistical advantage, as in 63 fights with competitors that missed weight, the offending party went just 31-32.

Second, underdogs are slightly more likely to miss weight. Thirty-five out of 63 fighters to miss weight were underdogs (55.6 percent).

And finally, if you are an underdog who misses weight, it might be worth considering skipping the fight altogether, because your chances of victory are not strong. Underdogs who failed to hit their number went 12-23 over those 144 events (a poor 34.3 winning percentage).

Is missing weight an advantage or a detriment on fight night?
Very informative, I will defer to the data and admit being wrong. BUT I will also reconateur an angle here:
what do the most recent stats tell us? That is, with regards to this year, how many underdogs missed weight and won? How much of an underdog were they?
AND, is there an amount of missed weight that statistically swings things?
 

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It's not.




These paragraphs aren't in order, I just selected a few to give you an idea. Much more details if you click on link .

Since the UFC introduced its early weigh-in procedures in June 2016, the promotion has held 72 events. During that time, they have held 42 matches in which one fighter missed weight, with the bout only going forward after the opponent agreed to participate in a catchweight encounter. (Nine additional matches were canceled completely due to weight-cutting issues.)

The results are interesting.

In those 42 bouts, the fighter who missed weight emerged victorious the majority of the time, with a record of 23 wins and 19 losses (54.8% win percentage).


But that alone does not offer meaningful information. The data can be broken down further to reveal another trend, and that is this: Fighters who missed weight but were already favored to win by oddsmakers were much more likely to emerge victorious than those who missed weight but were underdogs.

In fact, Romero was one of only a handful of underdogs who missed weight to leave with a win. Underdogs missing weight went just 7-14 (33.3%) in their 21 tries. By contrast, betting favorites who missed weight went 16-5 (76.2%) during that time.

So what can we glean from this information?

First off, all things considered, an extra pound or two doesn’t seem to make much difference in winning or losing. If your opponent misses weight, there is almost no statistical advantage, as in 63 fights with competitors that missed weight, the offending party went just 31-32.

Second, underdogs are slightly more likely to miss weight. Thirty-five out of 63 fighters to miss weight were underdogs (55.6 percent).

And finally, if you are an underdog who misses weight, it might be worth considering skipping the fight altogether, because your chances of victory are not strong. Underdogs who failed to hit their number went 12-23 over those 144 events (a poor 34.3 winning percentage).

Is missing weight an advantage or a detriment on fight night?
That article ignores some important factors- how much the miss was, if the fighter was allowed to cut more and then make weight (worse for the overweight fighter); and does not factor in trying hard and still missing -vs- saying screwing and just taking a small financial penalty to avoid the stress of shedding the hardest few pounds.