General Trans service members getting the boot

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kvr28

I am the Greengo
Nov 22, 2015
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Klinger was too far ahead of his time


Transgender service members will be separated from the US military unless they receive an exemption, according to a Pentagon memo filed in court on Wednesday – essentially banning them from joining or serving in the armed forces.

Donald Trump signed an executive order in January that took aim at transgender troops in a personal way – at one point saying that a man identifying as a woman was “not consistent with the humility and selflessness required of a service member”.

This month, the Pentagon had said that the US military would no longer allow transgender individuals to join and would stop performing or facilitating procedures associated with gender transition for service members.

Wednesday’s late-evening memo went further. It said that the Pentagon must create a procedure to identify troops who are transgender within 30 days and then within 30 days of that, must start to separate them from the military.


”It is the policy of the United States government to establish high standards for service member readiness, lethality, cohesion, honesty, humility, uniformity, and integrity,” said the memo, dated 26 February.

”This policy is inconsistent with the medical, surgical, and mental health constraints on individuals with gender dysphoria or who have a current diagnosis or history of, or exhibit symptoms consistent with, gender dysphoria.”

There is no requirement for transgender troops to self identify and the Pentagon doesn’t have a precise number.

The Pentagon said waivers would be granted only “provided there is a compelling government interest in retaining the service member that directly supports warfighting capabilities”.

It added that for a waiver, troops must also be able to meet a number of criteria, including that the service member “demonstrates 36 consecutive months of stability in the service member’s sex without clinically significant distress”.

The military has about 1.3 million active duty personnel, according to Department of Defense data. Transgender rights advocates say there are as many as 15,000 transgender service members. Officials say the number is in the low thousands.

The move, which goes further than restrictions Trump placed on transgender service members during his first administration, was described as unprecedented by advocates. ”The scope and severity of this ban is unprecedented. It is a complete purge of all transgender individuals from military service,” said Shannon Minter of the National Center For Lesbian Rights (NCLR).

The memo was filed in court as part of a lawsuit brought by NCLR and GLAD Law. The suit challenges the constitutionality of the January executive order and argues that it violates the equal protection component of the fifth amendment.

This month, the US defense secretary, Pete Hegseth, said people with gender dysphoria already in the military would be “treated with dignity and respect”.


Transgender service members will be separated from the US military unless they receive an exemption, according to a Pentagon memo filed in court on Wednesday – essentially banning them from joining or serving in the armed forces.

Donald Trump signed an executive order in January that took aim at transgender troops in a personal way – at one point saying that a man identifying as a woman was “not consistent with the humility and selflessness required of a service member”.

This month, the Pentagon had said that the US military would no longer allow transgender individuals to join and would stop performing or facilitating procedures associated with gender transition for service members.

Wednesday’s late-evening memo went further. It said that the Pentagon must create a procedure to identify troops who are transgender within 30 days and then within 30 days of that, must start to separate them from the military.


”It is the policy of the United States government to establish high standards for service member readiness, lethality, cohesion, honesty, humility, uniformity, and integrity,” said the memo, dated 26 February.

”This policy is inconsistent with the medical, surgical, and mental health constraints on individuals with gender dysphoria or who have a current diagnosis or history of, or exhibit symptoms consistent with, gender dysphoria.”

There is no requirement for transgender troops to self identify and the Pentagon doesn’t have a precise number.

The Pentagon said waivers would be granted only “provided there is a compelling government interest in retaining the service member that directly supports warfighting capabilities”.

It added that for a waiver, troops must also be able to meet a number of criteria, including that the service member “demonstrates 36 consecutive months of stability in the service member’s sex without clinically significant distress”.

The military has about 1.3 million active duty personnel, according to Department of Defense data. Transgender rights advocates say there are as many as 15,000 transgender service members. Officials say the number is in the low thousands.

The move, which goes further than restrictions Trump placed on transgender service members during his first administration, was described as unprecedented by advocates. ”The scope and severity of this ban is unprecedented. It is a complete purge of all transgender individuals from military service,” said Shannon Minter of the National Center For Lesbian Rights (NCLR).

The memo was filed in court as part of a lawsuit brought by NCLR and GLAD Law. The suit challenges the constitutionality of the January executive order and argues that it violates the equal protection component of the fifth amendment.

This month, the US defense secretary, Pete Hegseth, said people with gender dysphoria already in the military would be “treated with dignity and respect”.

 

segfault

Posting Machine
Aug 13, 2024
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Poor Klinger. All those hours of bartering with the nurses, sewing, waxing, planning intricate schemes. Soldiers these days have to too easy if they want to get a Section 8.
 

MountainMedic

Rock Kicker
Sep 28, 2017
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Would that potentially give them access to services, due to their "condition"?

It would be fucked to give them less than honorable, that stays with you.

Isn't failure to assimilate an option?
Basically you just leave, like none of this ever happened.

Some of them definitely have pensions at this point. How do we handle that.

I'm not sticking up for them, I want them all out of the services, but fair is fair...
 

O’Browneye

Well-Known Member
Dec 6, 2024
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Clinton of course fucked this shit up royally with his "don't ask, don't tell" rewrite of what sorts of behaviors and thinking made one acceptable for military service.

Prior to that travesty the UCMJ was crystal clear on the matter. Fags were disallowed admission and summarily tossed if found to be fudge packers subsequent to getting in the door while dykes were winked and smirked at unless they were open and strident about licking clam.

I think the easiest solution would be to just dust off and reactivate the pre-Clinton UCMJ and once again toss all fags immediately as inadaptable to military service due to affliction with mental disorders or "personality" disorders if we must be nice about it with general under honorable conditions discharges.

Those with 20 or more years should be able to collect earned pensions and the rest should go be fruity civilians with whatever experience they might be able to take away and with earned VA benefits intact but nothing more.

We need to be able to have a "tough shit, you're defective and we're cutting our losses" set of policies and stand by them.
 

jalal

Lurker
Aug 14, 2024
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I think it’s perfectly acceptable to go back to the good old days. But there is a lot of opportunity for lawsuits if you tried to just say tough shit.

I am not advocating for gay/trans people in the service and I agree that it is a mental illness. But you set the Military up for failure and years of litigation if you burden it with a sudden “tough shit” policy.

Find a way to transition the mess that the dems made since Clinton and then we can start fresh.