Yes but your view is now mainstream.
It wasn't in 2001.
That was just the nut jobs, loons, tin foil hat brigade and aggressive homosexuals who shout in posts.
General Trump kills top Iranian general
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Yes but your view is now mainstream.
It wasn't in 2001.
That was just the nut jobs, loons, tin foil hat brigade and aggressive homosexuals who shout in posts.
Ok
Good to know you feel that way
Now you go on ignore for awhile
I suggest you do some reading on the two topics I brought up
Maybe later you can engage without ad hominem ignorant insults
Don't fall the divide and conquer homie
Good to know you feel that way
Now you go on ignore for awhile
I suggest you do some reading on the two topics I brought up
Maybe later you can engage without ad hominem ignorant insults
Don't fall the divide and conquer homie
I did look up operation mockingbird.
It's faintly sinister but otherwise less impactful than Murdoch owning a news channel.
Or trump saying MSM is fake news.
Just got home and haven't put you on ignore yet(might not do it if you can avoid insults)...glad you looked up one of the things I brought up...Media at this time is filled with assets and agents, not just on certain stations/channels.
Fake news/propaganda is a concept that is as old as civilization itself...But now that trump has used or abused the term that makes the entire premise dangerous?...It has always been dangerous.
LOL at murdoch being the only media pushing propaganda and lies...not sure how you can say that...all channels are rife with Lies and Spin, while all avoiding certain topics like the plague.
I never brought up or bring up Trump...I only bring up that propaganda is strong and widespread(even legalized)...That is my only point.
I check this thread only to observe the divide and conquer.
I wish you and yours the best today and in the future.
Ya
he is full of shit
that strike probably goes down regardless of who is in "office" IMO
Did you view that Ben Swann video that Daglord posted? Good stuff....post #406...you might enjoy it General - Trump kills top Iranian general
I extend future blessings to you and your family as well.
Here is the thing though. I've worked in TV news rooms since about 1994. I have a bit of experience in this. I've seen mistakes, I've seen sloppy journalism, I've seen wrong pictures used. But I've never seen an agenda pushed. I've never seen propaganda per se. I have seen biased reporting during the second gulf war. War will do that to a correspondent in the field. They go native when they are embedded with the troops.
But what you are alluding to is a huge conspiracy. It would be nigh on impossible to construct and take people of all levels to accomplish this.
Some people may have an agenda. Some people may continually present in a certain way but they are quickly found out. There was a chap who edited the ten o'clock news on the BBC. Craig Oliver. He was useless. He had a right wing agenda but he was impotent at trying to set an agenda because the BBC is impartial. Too many people to stop him. He ended up as David Cameron's spin doctor who made him a knight.
The majority of journalists won't work for a news channel with a direct agenda. I can tell you all the news channels that are dodgy. And thankfully it isn't that many.
If you want a half decent insight into Murdoch and Fox news check this out.
The Loudest Voice (TV Mini-Series 2019) - IMDb
It's a drama but the facts are there.
I'm not saying things are perfect. But when the powerful and rich point and tell you to look this way. It's probably better to look the other way.
Again. This isn't strictly true.
It was Cheney who created Isis. And leaving all the weapons behind of the people they beat and even their own started them.
Check out Vice starring Christian Bale.
Anyone that watches that and still votes republican staggers me.
But there was emails!
to me it isn't about voting one way or another
The guys I vote for don't even get to participate in debates or get any MSM run(Ron Paul)
I get that to you it is a left right issue...to me that is just the names of the two heads of the same snake
The media is absolutely the enemy of who they don't agree with. The media is 90% on one side. Yes they make mistakes but it's funny how the mistakes only go in one direction. Everytime the media makes mistakes with Trump it's to make him look even worse never better. Let's also not forget how when Hillary was running against Trump all that proof came out of mainstream so-called "Journalists" being in the tank for Hillary and doing everything possible to hurt Trump and help her which was a disgrace.
LoL @ the Murdoch empire being the only one with an agenda
CNN is basically Antifa headquarters and MSNBC is LGBTQABC123 headquarters.
I agree they are nearly as bad as each other and I have often voted independent.
But the older I get the more that I see the right is responsible for ordinary folk getting ass blasted slightly more than the left ass blasts us.
good to know that you work in the industry...I only speak of american media and news...no idea what goes on across seas
I will agree to disagree(no disrespect) that it is impossible to accomplish a widespread propaganda machine...I think that is exactly what has happened ever since the message was easily spread to the masses (i.e. Radio, Television, Movies, Internet)
I don't see it as a big conspiracy...I see it as a business model...there are literal government agents in the MSM on multiple channels...Content is mostly agenda, and very little journalism
"when the powerful and rich point and tell you to look this way. It's probably better to look the other way."
Agree 100%^^
You pointed out two films/documentaries/series on the topic...I have not seen them...I suspect they are not immune to propaganda or bias themselves...as they are certainly made and/or backed by "the powerful and rich"...not saying they are BS or devoid of facts, just that they themselves should be taken/viewed with a grain of salt
carry on
The American media is very different to ours and much more Partizan.
But I don't accept any of them lie to the extent fox does
CNN is a decent outlet. I get that it triggers you but its only since trump got in and they gave him unfavorable coverage that you now hate them so.
They use fact checkers and rely on two different sources before they report anything.
The last two times they didn't they held their hands up and admitted they got it wrong.
Trump has been fact checked by independent parties and shown to have lied over 10000 times since he became president.
10k of proveable lies.
It's mad that people's hate for the other allow them to be blindsided by their guy.
CNN has been bad for a long time but they've gone full-retard ever since Trump. The media was in love with Obama. They were his press secretaries. When Hillary was running against Obama I had democrat family members who actually only watched Fox News because they were Hillary voters and couldn't stand how biased CNN and MSNBC were in favor of Obama and I couldn't agree more...
what if they don't have a "guy"?
and how does a guy make 10K statements, let alone 10K false statements in 4 years?
7 lies a day? I am sure he lies that much, but is he even putting out 7 statements publicly.
oh wait, I can answer my own question as to how they could lie that often...answer: They are a Politician(AKA an elected and paid Propagandist)
Trump is a D bag
Obama is a D bag
Killary is a D bag
Bush jr sr were D bag
Clinton bill is a D bag
etc...
I sense a pattern here
Nah. As I said it's all been documented.
Congratulations! Donald Trump Has Managed To Tell 10,000 Lies Since Taking Office
Report: Trump Has Told More Than 10,000 Lies Since Being Inaugurated
Opinion | President Trump’s Lies, the Definitive List
I'm sure all these links have sleeper agents/CIA moles in them.
But were they the ones who made Donald Trump lie?
That is some conspiracy.
I was kidding...Politicians lie all day long
you may have missed my point
Did they fact check previous Presidents Lying totals? What are their numbers?
Good question. I'd say no as it wasn't such a blatant and daily event.
Sounds like Iran just hit a base in Iraq where US troops are housed.
why dont you just start chanting death to america? you know you want to
I love America.
One of the greatest countries to ever exist.
I just love buffaloes more
