General Tucker: Putin has done a great job for Russia, as opposed to Germany

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okiebug

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I bet its kind of a pain and the ass to travel there nowadays yeah

I think you just need a visa but as I understand it, money exchange can be a problem due to swift. None of your credit cards will work.
 

okiebug

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It's not about swift, but Mastercard and Visa. Just bring cash.

A little off topic, but i was in Moscow before Uber. You could just signal and someone would eventually pull over and you could pay them to drive you somewhere. Does that still exist?
 

touch

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A little off topic, but i was in Moscow before Uber. You could just signal and someone would eventually pull over and you could pay them to drive you somewhere. Does that still exist?
In big cities, that is almost extinct by now. Somewhere in countryside, sure
 

kaladin stormblessed

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touch @touch

Back in the day, my buddy walked over to my desk right as I had googled Via Gra... and Google had assumed it to be a typo

He was cracking up at the Viagra search results as I tried to explain that I was looking for hot russia women singing a song I liked


View: https://youtu.be/zklP0lV1W00?si=muJRarMMav433vCr


Ps... Moscow never sleeps

Pss... kagda ti zdes, dobroe ultra, moi drug

Piss... ti goloboi
 
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Wiggy

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Definitely in to learn more about Russia.

I said this (I think) in another thread, but I watched a video of some journalist that went to live in Moscow for work (she was working for RT, if I remember) and aside from typical things that come with living / working abroad such as culture shocking, language barrier, missing family, etc, she seemed to absolutely love it there.
 

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I have a question touch @touch

What is the feeling on comunisim over there these day's?
What % of people would you estimate are sympathetic to it and likewise % that are hardcore.
Are there many people that pine for the " good old day's " before the wall came down or is it largely agreed that " yeah we tried that and it didn't work so great ".


I have to imagine that the way things are in the world now there's probably a growing amount of people that are like " fuck , things may have well stayed how they were and we'd have been better off ". - that tends to be a bit of a cycle of history.

My position is I'm a hardcore ANCAP.
Just curious.
 

touch

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I don't know what ANCAP is. The official communist party is big but it's pretty much controlled by Putin. As for public sentiment, mostly older people are sympathetic with communism.
Are there many people that pine for the " good old day's " before the wall came down or is it largely agreed that " yeah we tried that and it didn't work so great ".
Both options are there. In the Soviet times, all those former USSR countries that the west has turned and is turning against Russia, lived in friendship together, that much is certain.
 

okiebug

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I don't know what ANCAP is. The official communist party is big but it's pretty much controlled by Putin. As for public sentiment, mostly older people are sympathetic with communism.

Both options are there. In the Soviet times, all those former USSR countries that the west has turned and is turning against Russia, lived in friendship together, that much is certain.

My best understanding after having some deep talks with some Russian folks is a lot of the soviet union is missed based on free travel between countries and a security, people worked for a pension that they lost in a day. Many elderly people were hoodwinked by gangsters in the 90s and lost almost everything. A lot of Russians found themselves suddenly outside of Russia not knowing who thier new employer was. If you moved to kiev working for the soviet union, which if you were working, you were working for the soviet union. To a Russian it was like moving from Texas to California then suddenly your in a different country working for who knows and not knowing what happened to your pension or paycheck. Suddenly you're Ukrainian and your parents in Moscow are Russian. Many older Russians have no concept of free market economics. They understood communism but don't understand what's happening today. It's actually incredible how quickly the last 2 generations have adapted.
 
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okiebug

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Which is also why putin is such a popular person. The old Soviet Union was falling fast when he stepped in. He pulled it together and yanked control away from the criminal oligarchs who were raping the country on behalf of western corporations. In my opinion, the older people don't really want communism back as an economic system. They want the simplicity and security that they felt and a product of the system.
 

okiebug

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communist party is big but it's pretty much controlled by Putin

Lol, it is now. For all the crap he's gotten about taking out political opponents and opposition, resting control of the communist is probably the only thing that you could clearly pin on him, but if he didn't things could have regressed quickly.
 

kaladin stormblessed

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Funny thing is, they are/were actually Ukrainian
Interesting. I don't know most of the lyrics, but assumed it was russian cause of easier lines like "ya skuchaiyu po tebe"

Wouldve been hilarious if my very irish-american buddy had called me out on that
 

touch

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Interesting. I don't know most of the lyrics, but assumed it was russian cause of easier lines like "ya skuchaiyu po tebe"

Wouldve been hilarious if my very irish-american buddy had called me out on that
yeah they spoke Russian in most of Ukraine, including Kiev, until recently
 

Wiggy

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How does the main / majority of the population feel about Putin or the govt in general?

Is there a sense of identity politics like there is in the western world where someone's chosen side is "good" no matter what, and the other side is "bad" no matter what...and when you ask someone why they feel that way, it's pretty much exclusively based on conjecture & emotions rather than any semblance of objectivity or facts?

And how does the public in general think of the US?

Are there any type of Cold War esque remnants of the west is "bad", just as there was here that Russia was "bad"...and how many people now think Russia / Putin is "bad" (though I'd argue today it's more about identity politics than it is any kinda quasi patriotic "culture")?
 

touch

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Putin is not very popular, but there is no other side lol
That would be based on facts revolving around the war, price hikes, lack of rise in salaries, etc.
Public in general thinks of the US very badly, as this all is largely US/deep state doing
To me its pretty obvious we are living in the new Cold War now, ever worse than the previous one, as this level of hatred stirred up against Russia in all the major western countries is just unprecented and they are seriously considering the hot war by the end of this decade
I don't know how many people think that Putin is bad, that would vary depending on the community, I guess
 

Wiggy

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Wow...interesting. But not unexpected, I guess.

Do the people hate the US just as an idea / entity? Or down to an individual person?

Like I'm old enough to remember when the US not just hated Russia, but as an American, if you were to ever meet a Russian on the street, you'd immediately not like him, have disdain for him, not trust him, etc.

(There's a reason so many of the bad guys in '80s action movies were Russians. lol)

Is it that way there now toward the US & Americans? Like what would happen if an American walked down the street of Moscow? Or a smaller city, but still urban area? Or out in the country?
 

vad

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Interesting. I cant say I have met many people, if any, who hate Russians. They dislike the leadership of that country, sure.
 

MountainMedic

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As a kid growing up with monthly air raid sirens drills and all the cold war propaganda I didn't hate Russia, I feared them because I was told they want to kill me.

As an adult I don't hate Russia or Russians, I consider Russia a competitor not a mortal enemy.

The "problem" for me though is that they are allied with several nations that actually do want to destroy us.
I don't know how to parse that out...
 

Wiggy

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As a kid growing up with monthly air raid sirens drills and all the cold war propaganda I didn't hate Russia, I feared them because I was told they want to kill me.

As an adult I don't hate Russia or Russians, I consider Russia a competitor not a mortal enemy.

The "problem" for me though is that they are allied with several nations that actually do want to destroy us.
I don't know how to parse that out...
I resonate with a lot of that. I didn't have to go through the air raid drills & such, but I do remember as a kid thinking of Russia as a boogeyman that was out to get me / us / the country.

Luckily, Rocky Balboa taught us that everyone can change in quite possibly the best documentary ever made.

re Russia's allies:

Do I think Russia is out to get us? No.

But Russia does seem (at least on some level) to be buddies with China, and I wouldn't trust China for quite literally anything.