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LurkenLikaGherkin

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Miao wins that match all day and twice on Sunday
Is there a draw option for the danis/shields match?
Nay, there are no props up on 5d for the Chael event. Draw would fall under props. All they have for that event is win/lose as far as I can see.
 

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Exact reason I switched to bet365
I do still bet at 5dimes from time to time but not often
krs - do you have to provide ID/SS card scans to cash out on 365?

5dimes and Pinny lines are the best, usually. The juice is your main obstacle, unless betting short term shots. Hence 5d in my case.
 

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krs - do you have to provide ID/SS card scans to cash out on 365?

5dimes and Pinny lines are the best, usually. The juice is your main obstacle, unless betting short term shots. Hence 5d in my case.
I provided a credit card that they put the money on
They called my phone to verify when I was 1st setting the account up
 

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Hmm
Wonder if the bet would be void if it goes the full time and is a draw then
Yep, bet would be void on a draw, but under EBI rules can't see how there would be a draw. After regulation, they go to sudden death rounds where each guy gets either spider web or back control (there's a coin flip, and a choice), and then whomever either holds the control longest, or gets the tap inside the time limit established by the other guy's "ride time" wins. So, not likely to be any draws, unless rule exceptions are in place, in which case draw should be a push.
 

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I provided a credit card that they put the money on
They called my phone to verify when I was 1st setting the account up
Have you cashed out on 365?

Demanding ID copies is one of the ways they try to prevent you from cashing out. Trying to get you to give up on cashing out is part of the whole offshore gaming scam/rigamarole. It's built into pretty much all offshore gaming shore sites' policy.

Was so much better when book to book and book to poker cash transfers were possible.

Back in the day, you could have moved 5d money to another player, or yourself, at another site, and if they had poker you could have eventually moved it to, say, your poker stars account. Neteller was the shit. If you deposited via Neteller, you could painlessly cash out that way, too.

The US gov put a hurting on the illegit gaming biz with the CC laws.

The books are squeezing players like a MFer now, compared to then.
 

LurkenLikaGherkin

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ID theft shit goes on related to 5d btw, I think. Bogus charges to the card you used to deposit, while you have cash on the site, seems to be one of the ways they try to prevent cashouts (i.e. if you cancel and get rid of the card, following bogus charges, you can't cash out, because you need the original card to do it).

Basic reality is, anybody you know who's thinking of playing offshore really needs to be warned about all this shit prior to depositing, because playing online is a minefield and you could get blown up in unforeseen ways.
 

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Yep, bet would be void on a draw, but under EBI rules can't see how there would be a draw. After regulation, they go to sudden death rounds where each guy gets either spider web or back control (there's a coin flip, and a choice), and then whomever either holds the control longest, or gets the tap inside the time limit established by the other guy's "ride time" wins. So, not likely to be any draws, unless rule exceptions are in place, in which case draw should be a push.
Huh, wasn't aware of that
Need to watch more ebi and sug apparently
And I just checked bet365 and you can withdraw to an idebit (?) Account if you don't have a cc
 

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Have you cashed out on 365?

Demanding ID copies is one of the ways they try to prevent you from cashing out. Trying to get you to give up on cashing out is part of the whole offshore gaming scam/rigamarole. It's built into pretty much all offshore gaming shore sites' policy.

Was so much better when book to book and book to poker cash transfers were possible.

Back in the day, you could have moved 5d money to another player, or yourself, at another site, and if they had poker you could have eventually moved it to, say, your poker stars account. Neteller was the shit. If you deposited via Neteller, you could painlessly cash out that way, too.

The US gov put a hurting on the illegit gaming biz with the CC laws.

The books are squeezing players like a MFer now, compared to then.
I've made withdrawals but never fully cashed out
I had the problem you're talking about with 5dimes when I was trying to withdraw it was either 2 or 300 and it took forever
Haven't had problems with bet365 but also haven't tried to withdraw large amounts
 

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Another thing they try to get you with is those *bonuses*
Most of them, you have to win like 3times whatever you deposited before making a withdrawl
I never take bonuses anymore
 

LurkenLikaGherkin

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I've made withdrawals but never fully cashed out
I had the problem you're talking about with 5dimes when I was trying to withdraw it was either 2 or 300 and it took forever
Haven't had problems with bet365 but also haven't tried to withdraw large amounts
Are you outside the US? That could also be a difference.

I think some of the sites that have higher juice may be easier/less-sketchy for cashouts. That would make sense.

I deposited once on Bovada fairly recently, and went busto, so never went to cashout process.
 

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Are you outside the US? That could also be a difference.

I think some of the sites that have higher juice may be easier/less-sketchy for cashouts. That would make sense.

I deposited once on Bovada fairly recently, and went busto, so never went to cashout process.
Ya I'm in Canada
 

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Another thing they try to get you with is those *bonuses*
Most of them, you have to win like 3times whatever you deposited before making a withdrawl
I never take bonuses anymore
Yeh...if I deposited on a bonus site, I'd immediately play all the real money on legit bets, and then unload all the bonus money on plays like Cyborg -800 vs some unfortunate she-can, to get it changed to real money as quickly as possible. Boxing semi-locks are another good way to cycle the bonuses to real money. I figured that out re Bovada kind of too late to take full advantage of figuring that out.
 

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Ya man, it's crazy all the limitations they have put on you guys
I look at it as potentially positive. If online gaming is legalized in the US -- unless it happens like poker is happening in Nevada, etc., with offshore poker sites being licensed in the US -- real regulation could result in some awesome times for poker & gambling in the US.

That's a big topic that I'm going to avoid, other than to say if legit, regulated online poker were legalized in the US, being run by the same companies that run big poker casinos in CA like Commerce, etc., I would play a shitload of online poker.
 

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I'm open to taking Jr at +120 (one at 10 to win 12), Eddie at +115 (up to 2 bets, 10 to win 11.50), Chase Sherman at -110 (up to 2 bets at 11 to win 10), Cortney at -110 (up to 2 bets at 11 to win 10). Already played all the others, drained my account on Miyao.

teamquestnorth @teamquestnorth, La Paix @BirdWatcher, Joemacka @Joemacka, Wild @Wild, sparkuri @sparkuri, @Yuri (probably getting that wrong), @UKTT (definitely getting that wrong...). KRS, your money is good here, also. Not sure if I'm forgetting anybody I've bet with in the past.... @Splinty? Not sure if we've bet before.
 

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I'm open to taking Jr at +120 (one at 10 to win 12), Eddie at +115 (up to 2 bets, 10 to win 11.50), Chase Sherman at -110 (up to 2 bets at 11 to win 10), Cortney at -110 (up to 2 bets at 11 to win 10). Already played all the others, drained my account on Miyao.

teamquestnorth @teamquestnorth, La Paix @BirdWatcher, Joemacka @Joemacka, Wild @Wild, sparkuri @sparkuri, @Yuri (probably getting that wrong), @UKTT (definitely getting that wrong...). KRS, your money is good here, also. Not sure if I'm forgetting anybody I've bet with in the past.... @Splinty? Not sure if we've bet before.
I'll take Stipe. My $12 to your $10.

I'll take Poirier. My $11.50 to your $10.

And I'll take Jason Knight, if anyone wants Skelly. My $10 to your $11.50
 

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I'll take Stipe. My $12 to your $10.

I'll take Poirier. My $11.50 to your $10.

And I'll take Jason Knight, if anyone wants Skelly. My $10 to your $11.50
Yahtzee -- confirmed on Stipe & Poirier. Thanks for the bets, good sir.

Still open for biz 1 bet Alvarez & 2 bets (i.e. units of 10) on Sherman & Cortney.

Am on the same side of that last one as you Wild @Wild.
 

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Checking lines. 5d late significant money is on: Stipe (10 to 20 point movement), Joanna (20 to 30 pt movement), Knight (10+ point movement), Polo (aka Pollo according to Joe Rogan lol) Reyes (30+ point movement, but he's +300, so that's a smaller percentage), Casey (20 point move), Benitez (10 to 20 point move), Coulter (10 points, but steady 40+ point movement over a few days).

Miyao finally moved, & I think Shields might've as well. Miyao is -350 from -305 over the course of the day. Not sure about Shields, but I think Danis (now -280) was at least -310 to start the day.