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trotskyshammer

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Best guitarist, Kim Thayill
Best composer/vocalist, Chris Cornell
Most underrated bassist/composer, Ben Sheperd
Most underrated drummer, Matt Cameron
 
sparkuri

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Burner2274 said:
State of Love and Trust is the best song on the Singles soundtrack.
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LOFL

It's probably the 3rd WORST song.
It's not even the best Pearl Jam song.


Birth Ritual smoke it
Hendrix smokes it
Heart fucking obliterates it
Seasons shits on it
Drown drowns it
Would is top 3 on the album
Mother Love Bone is the best song on the album, & Pearl Jam's "Breathe" beats SOLAT.
Screaming Trees is neck & neck.

I can only assert that State of Love & Trust is definitively better than the horseshit Paul Westerberg put out.
 
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sparkuri said:
Vedder and Layne had "cool" voices totally unique.
Chris Cornell's voice & musical range blew them both away, and they both said it.
And they both collaborated with him, Vedder on Temple of the Dog & Layne on SAP.
There is no comparison.

Layne & Chris.


View: https://youtu.be/aESvWB-kMas?si=U6wqumbmJ93JdO--


Vedder & Chris.


View: https://youtu.be/VUb450Alpps?si=rlJO9VPr48UnvBMi


Cool thread, brings back tons of memories.
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"And they're farming babies while the slaves are all working."
 
Burner2274

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sparkuri said:
LOFL

It's probably the 3rd WORST song.
It's not even the best Pearl Jam song.


Birth Ritual smoke it
Hendrix smokes it
Heart fucking obliterates it
Seasons shits on it
Drown drowns it
Would is top 3 on the album
Mother Love Bone is the best song on the album, & Pearl Jam's "Breathe" beats SOLAT.
Screaming Trees is neck & neck.

I can only assert that State of Love & Trust is definitively better than the horseshit Paul Westerberg put out.
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We all have our own opinions. Sirius radio had a vote a few years ago, and State was top five. I think it was even top 3.
 
sparkuri

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Burner2274 said:
We all have our own opinions. Sirius radio had a vote a few years ago, and State was top five. I think it was even top 3.
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Apologies if I came out hard, I honestly was scratching my head on that.

Chloe Dancer/Crown of Thorns was arguably Mother Love Bone's greatest song, and SAP songs, Temple of the Dog & several others(AIC Would", Candlebox' Far Behind, ) were dedicated to & made because of Andrew Wood.
Musically it's just the best original song on Singles.

Battle of Evermore, the Led Zeppelin great, covered by Ann & Nancy Wilson under "The Lovemongers" project band has to be up there just because it's awesome.

Would by AIC is featured on the soundtrack, and is certainly one of their best songs.
But in the movie, "It ain't like that" was the song that played(one of their many, which confused me, I still have never inquired as to why. Another underrated song that is covered in the deluxe album set, one of my first guitar rifts learned.

I think the reason State of Love and Trust may have been voted top 3 or 5, was because it was Sirius radio.
I actually learned that just now, thanks. That song was probably one of the most acceptable for portraying:
1) what SUB POP and MAINSTREAM WANTED "Grunge" to be
2) the theme of the movie itself,
but it was neither "grunge" or that special, and it segued into PJ's next album "Vs.".
imo Breath was a better song.

Birth Ritual and Seasons by Soundgarden and Chris Cornell respectively were superior imo.

Smashing Pumpkins Drown was also better imo, if you can weather the screaching feedback of the end.

Then State of Love and Trust has to battle with Screaming Trees I Nearly Lost You and, well, Jimi Hendrix.



Funny and semi-related, I was locked up when this movie came out, then transferred for good behavior to a group home transition facility in Tacoma where we had resident security.
This black guy was a Kung-Fu guy named Bernard, and was a security guy there. He was a really good guy and I ran into him later after my life had cleaned up a little.
But he got a part playing a "Single" on video and was featured in the movie.
Timestamped:


View: https://youtu.be/rqLtOjENz-Q?si=DTS4YNGMiJqhyWoH&t=89


So the movie came into the place and we fast forwarded to his scene and everyone began clowning him.
 
Wild

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Been watching some AIC documentaries on YouTube. Layne Staley was such a talented singer but man he was a lost soul. Dude got addicted to heroine and ultimately shut out everyone in his life. The last two years of his life, he lived as a total recluse, holed up in his condo doing drugs and playing video games. Wouldn't accept visitors, didn't speak to anyone in the band, and the only time people saw him outside was when he would occasionally visit the video game & comic book stores down the street. Had food delivered to the condo but whoever delivered it had to sit it outside and ring the buzzer.

They did their MTV Unplugged set in June 1996 and he looked really rough then. I think his last live show was in Aug 1996. He lived another 6 years and weighed less than 90 lbs when they found him dead in his condo, still holding a full syringe. He had been dead for 2 weeks before his family called for a wellness check. Apparently their bass guitarist, Mike Star, visited him either the day before he died or the day of. Never forgave himself for not calling 911 because of the condition he said Staley was in and eventually died of an overdose himself a couple of years later.

So much talent to come out of Seattle at the same time, and all died of drug use. Nutshell might be the darkest song ever.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EKi2E9dVY8
 
sparkuri

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Wild said:
Been watching some AIC documentaries on YouTube. Layne Staley was such a talented singer but man he was a lost soul. Dude got addicted to heroine and ultimately shut out everyone in his life. The last two years of his life, he lived as a total recluse, holed up in his condo doing drugs and playing video games. Wouldn't accept visitors, didn't speak to anyone in the band, and the only time people saw him outside was when he would occasionally visit the video game & comic book stores down the street. Had food delivered to the condo but whoever delivered it had to sit it outside and ring the buzzer.

They did their MTV Unplugged set in June 1996 and he looked really rough then. I think his last live show was in Aug 1996. He lived another 6 years and weighed less than 90 lbs when they found him dead in his condo, still holding a full syringe. He had been dead for 2 weeks before his family called for a wellness check. Apparently their bass guitarist, Mike Star, visited him either the day before he died or the day of. Never forgave himself for not calling 911 because of the condition he said Staley was in and eventually died of an overdose himself a couple of years later.

So much talent to come out of Seattle at the same time, and all died of drug use. Nutshell might be the darkest song ever.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EKi2E9dVY8
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That had a large impact on me as AIC was my favorite band.
"We" all knew what he was doing & that his days were numbered.
It's like that family member you talk about together, afraid to get 'the call'.
 
itskrisdude

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Best musicians were McCready, Thayil, Cantrell, and I’ll throw in Cameron because he’s versatile as fuck.

Overall I’ll say Cantrell, just because his songwriting skills were on par with his playing ability.
 
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