General Terror attack at Mandalay Bay

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Rambo John J

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Quite the opposite in fact. Everything I've seen (outside of all of the conspiracy folks) is there was definitely not a second (or third, fourth etc) shooter.
Misinfo is all over this event IMO
hard to know what reports are accurate
 

Rambo John J

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I feel that Steven was involved in something, possibly the shooter or a patsy.

I also think the second suspect may be a patsy or distraction from who was really involved with Steven.

Gun shot residue tests/Photos from the week of event/Unaltered audio from police and hotel from the night of/Real story of Jesus Campos(not the bs we have been told so far)

Real story on the Helicopters in area that evening/night of audio recordings of security at other hotels in area


Lot of stuff that isn't being released...some of what is released is interesting, some seems like misdirection
 

Rambo John J

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The conflicting initial reports with what is being reported now is all I need to see.

This investigation/narrative has been manipulated from the moment the event occurred...plain as day.

That is what concerns me and common sense dictates anything coming out now has been thru the spin filter many times before being widescale released to public.

fool me once shame on....

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxhQXV1-kFA
 

b00ts

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Funny how none of the "gun" experts in this thread have come out since its confirmed there are other suspected shooters now.
I assume this was directed at me. I have seen nothing in the new “evidence” that says anything about a second shooter. Only that there is a second suspect. I said from the beginning I believed others were involved in the planning.
 

Gay For Longo

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Jan 22, 2016
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Haven't read the last two pages but I have to say, if anybody even remotely thinks the idiots online saying there was no actual shooting and it was just played on the speakers (yes, there are people who actually believe this), a video got released last night that I had never seen before and it was real as fuck
Blood fucking everywhere, people on the ground, and the guy filming acted exactly how I would meaning the fucker wasn't acting (some believe they were all crisis actors, I'm not saying there were no crisis actors, just that this guy most definitely wasn't)

I can post the vid if people want but it is seriously not for the faint of heart
 

Gay For Longo

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Jan 22, 2016
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Oh there was also a video posted last night that we have never seen the full vid
We've seen parts of it but never the full fucking thing and guess what it shows?
What's it called lol... fuck I can't think of the word, it shows the gun being fired, you see it lighting up
Problem is, they are all above the 32nd floor
 

Gay For Longo

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Jan 22, 2016
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He was shooting at a crowd. Not individuals. Point and shoot.
From 500 yards?
With the drop off that would happen from that distance?
I dunno man
Seems more likely to me that he was bringing different models/setups for potential buyers but that could also be me fitting it into the narrative which I have most faith in thus far
 

mysticmac

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Oh there was also a video posted last night that we have never seen the full vid
We've seen parts of it but never the full fucking thing and guess what it shows?
What's it called lol... fuck I can't think of the word, it shows the gun being fired, you see it lighting up
Problem is, they are all above the 32nd floor
Muzzle flash.
 

mysticmac

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From 500 yards?
With the drop off that would happen from that distance?
I dunno man
Seems more likely to me that he was bringing different models/setups for potential buyers but that could also be me fitting it into the narrative which I have most faith in thus far
I don't think he used most of them.
 

Gay For Longo

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Jan 22, 2016
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that is as old as time...first story sticks and is repeated by the 95% of folks who do no further reading/researching

SO Yes...business as usual

great quote about it...I am looking for it
Very true, even when retraction are made, most people pay them no attention
 

mysticmac

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You're right
I question why though if he was still alive for 50minutes (i think thats the right time after what weve found out) after the shooting stopped
I think he sat there with his revolver waiting for them to breech the door. Once they did, he wanted to make it quick.
 

Gay For Longo

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Jan 22, 2016
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I feel that Steven was involved in something, possibly the shooter or a patsy.

I also think the second suspect may be a patsy or distraction from who was really involved with Steven.

Gun shot residue tests/Photos from the week of event/Unaltered audio from police and hotel from the night of/Real story of Jesus Campos(not the bs we have been told so far)

Real story on the Helicopters in area that evening/night of audio recordings of security at other hotels in area


Lot of stuff that isn't being released...some of what is released is interesting, some seems like misdirection
I agree that the man named is a distraction
Could very well be wrong and a lot of his connections are interesting but it just doesn't give me the right feeling

I still don't know what to think about the helicopters
The flight patterns and that so many transponders were off is wierd as fuck
Also the man named has very interesting connection with helicopters that I'll allow you guys to find if you want but I really don't know
 

Gay For Longo

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Jan 22, 2016
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I think he sat there with his revolver waiting for them to breech the door. Once they did, he wanted to make it quick.
But if he's not going to shoot anymore people, not even the cops who he would have been able to see with the cameras (assuming the cameras were for him and not for somebody else who is monitoring), why wait for them to come in?
Why not off himself once he was satisfied with what he had done
It just doesn't make any sense to me
I agree he definitely didn't want to be taken alive
 

Gay For Longo

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Jan 22, 2016
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Ok watch this vid guys, its the one with the muzzle flash and it's there a couple times throughout the video
Actually there are a bunch of wierd lights that show up
It comes up around 235-240 and 404-410
Let me know what you think because I really don't know much about guns

View: https://youtu.be/mGmL9bYjoeo


Btw give that guy a follow, he puts up some great fucking videos
And you can watch the one that proves it's real there if you choose to

He did this photo to show the heights of when some of the flashes show up compared to the broken windows
 

Gay For Longo

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Jan 22, 2016
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Another question
How is the autopsy not finalized when he has been cremated?
What the fuck is going on
I read that even the family hasn't been given the autopsy report
Is that true lueVelvet @lueVelvet
 

lueVelvet

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Another question
How is the autopsy not finalized when he has been cremated?
What the fuck is going on
I read that even the family hasn't been given the autopsy report
Is that true lueVelvet @lueVelvet
As far as I'm aware we haven't received anything but the ashes (though I haven't approached that topic directly with Eric yet).
 

mysticmac

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Haig got charged for manufacturing armor pressing bullets today.
 
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Gay For Longo

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So if we assume paddock was running guns, this was his connection to get weapons and ammo he couldn't get elsewhere?