General Terror attack at Mandalay Bay

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Gay For Longo

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I'm going to try and find the actual quote later
Sorry just on my way to get my daughter from school
A did a quick search on duckduckgo and couldn't find the latest timeline so I'll need to do a bit more digging
 

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Gun people
If you were the rest an ar15 on say a sofa chair head rest area and shoot 100 round mags, would the barrel heat up enough to burn the fabric on the couch?
Would there be any smoke residue?
Or would the chair look normal, like before the shooting begins?

This is a very important question

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Rambo John J

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Gun people
If you were the rest an ar15 on say a sofa chair head rest area and shoot 100 round mags, would the barrel heat up enough to burn the fabric on the couch?
Would there be any smoke residue?
Or would the chair look normal, like before the shooting begins?

This is a very important question

Edit: b00ts @the_b00ts ?
barrel would be that hot for sure...only the bare barrel though....if the barrel has a guard on it, it is probably not gonna heat up hot enough to burn fabric

you can burn your hand on a bare barrel though...I did it and only probably 30 rounds needed to get that baby hot as F...was a colt M4

would leave a mark on fabric I think, but hard to know if it would ignite(probably not IMO, depends on fabric)
 

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One other question
Who in here is aware of what the smith-mundt act is and what happened in 2013?
 

mysticmac

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barrel would be that hot for sure...only the bare barrel though....if the barrel has a guard on it that may not heat up hot enough to burn fabric

you can burn your hand on a bare barrel though...I did it and only probably 30 rounds needed to get that baby hot as F...was a colt M4

would leave a mark on fabric I think, but hard to know if it would ignite(probably not IMO, depends on fabric)
Yeah, but I'm also not sure why someone would place a barrel on something to fire. When someone fires a rifle from an anchored position, they will typically set the elbow of their lead arm on whatever shooting platform they are using rather than placing the barrel there. That or use a bipod.
 

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barrel would be that hot for sure...only the bare barrel though....if the barrel has a guard on it that may not heat up hot enough to burn fabric

you can burn your hand on a bare barrel though...I did it and only probably 30 rounds needed to get that baby hot as F...was a colt M4

would leave a mark on fabric I think, but hard to know if it would ignite(probably not IMO, depends on fabric)
Thanks man
I need to look up more into on the guns
I don't know if they have a guard, I do know 100% now that the guns he had came with standard flash supressors

Ask because in 35 if you look at the broken window and where the chair is... the only place he could shoot from would be using the back/head area for stabilization
He can't have the gin on the right of the chair, no room
On the left side the is a piece of glass that would block the bullets, so if he shot from there, that glass would be gone

Only place he could have shot from was on top of the chair
 

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Yeah, but I'm also not sure why someone would place a barrel on something to fire. When someone fires a rifle from an anchored position, they will typically set the elbow of their lead arm on whatever shooting platform they are using rather than placing the barrel there. That or use a bipod.
I don't get where the bipod could sit unless it was on the head rest but wouldn't it be bouncing off?

There is only one place he can shoot from in 35 and it's on top of the chair
 

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I don't get where the bipod could sit unless it was on the head rest but wouldn't it be bouncing off?

There is only one place he can shoot from in 35 and it's on top of the chair
I didn't say he was using a bipod. I was just describing how rifles are typically shot.

Though, I think I recall seeing photos taken from a helicopter looking into the rooms where a rifle with a bipod is visible sitting on a bed, but I think that was from the second room where he shot at the fuel tanks from rather than the bump fire into the crowd.
 

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I didn't say he was using a bipod. I was just describing how rifles are typically shot.

Though, I think I recall seeing photos taken from a helicopter looking into the rooms where a rifle with a bipod is visible sitting on a bed, but I think that was from the second room where he shot at the fuel tanks from rather than the bump fire into the crowd.
The guns definitely had bipods but Ya I know you don't know if he used it
My point is, whether he used it or not, how did he do the shooting with the chair there and leave no markings on the chair what so ever
In 34 I think for sure he was aiming for the tanks because he couldn't get an angle on the crowd from there unless he was standing

I will say that he could have had a shot at the crowd and tanks from 35
34 was not required for either spot
 

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Yeah, but I'm also not sure why someone would place a barrel on something to fire. When someone fires a rifle from an anchored position, they will typically set the elbow of their lead arm on whatever shooting platform they are using rather than placing the barrel there. That or use a bipod.
ya I was just speaking about Hot barrels after 5.56 rounds...nothing more
 

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They were. 223 rounds
What about them?

Would a person who was shot multiple times with .223 bullets be ok to be released from hospital within two days?

very similar but they produce different pressures so some guns prefer only one of the rounds and some are able to use both

as for the wounds they cause I don't know...I only shot at wood...they are high speed rounds and can cause some serious damage but i will defer to b00ts @the_b00ts or somebody who has seen a wound firsthand
 

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very similar but they produce different pressures so some guns prefer only one of the rounds and some are able to use both

as for the wounds they cause I don't know...I only shot at wood...they are high speed rounds and can cause some serious damage but i will defer to b00ts @the_b00ts or somebody who has seen a wound firsthand
Thanks for the great info man
 

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The LVMPD report or the FBI report?
I'm still looking and not finding it so I might very well be wrong here
I went back and relistened to the first shots we hear before the semi auto sound and it very well could be single shotting the ar trying to get aiming down

Going to keep looking throughout the night and will post it if I find it, but again, I might be remembering wrong
 

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I'm still looking and not finding it so I might very well be wrong here
I went back and relistened to the first shots we hear before the semi auto sound and it very well could be single shotting the ar trying to get aiming down

Going to keep looking throughout the night and will post it if I find it, but again, I might be remembering wrong
I remember the LVMPD report listing a timeline, but theirs said the shooting began toward the crowd first.
 

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I remember the LVMPD report listing a timeline, but theirs said the shooting began toward the crowd first.
I'm going to see if I can find the video of people supposedly being hit from the first shots

Dunno it I can still find it though
 

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200 wing actually has a pretty good view, the stage backdrop takes up way less space than I anticipated

Don't know if I agree that it's a better view, it definitely gives more options though
We do have to remember he did request any floor though


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