General Liberal gun grabbers are making a great case for owning an AR with their contradictory logic

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b00ts

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I'm interested in a good counter to this what I feel is a logical argument. I'm one of the rare rather neutral people on this issue.

One argument people have for guns is that guns are needed to protect ourselves from the government. This insinuates you want an even playing field. Fair enough.

However. Just like you can use guns for non lethal purposes, or you can have a whacko use guns to cause massive amounts of damage, one could also use tanks for non lethal purposes, or you can have a whacko use tanks to cause massive amounts of damage. Except, tanks are outlawed. Tanks are outlawed for this very purpose. Government has tank access. The same government you fear and want your AR for could literally blast a cannon through your home obliterating your AR into pieces.

But you would agree tanks should be outlawed as they are.

Why couldn't you cut back on weaponry made capable of causing massive murders such as Vegas, school shootings, etc....?
When the 2A was written, there were no restrictions on weapons and “a well-regulated” militia could be formed by the states to defend themselves from the federal government. Since the 1860’s, however, it’s been slowly chipped away at until all we’re left with is handguns, shotguns, bolt-action rifles, and a dumbed down semi-auto version of our most popular infantry weapon. You can follow the timeline on weapon restrictions, the most drastic of them in the 30’s, and see that if you keep chipping away at the 2A, it will do little to curb violence.
 

D241

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How many think if they wanted to purchase what is legal to purchase, they could protect themselves from the US government, including their agents, military, bombs, etc....?
 

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pews&vrooms
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How many think if they wanted to purchase what is legal to purchase, they could protect themselves from the US government, including their agents, military, bombs, etc....?
The military and law enforcement is made up of volunteer citizens with families. Right off the bat, the government would loose a large portion of its man power. You’d have organized and armed militias form with educated engineers, marksman, etc. Not saying the people would be able to over throw the government, but it wouldn’t be an easy fight for the feds either. This is the reason they know their place.
 

D241

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I don't mean that optimistic emoticon sarcastically. I truly feel that is an optimistic point of view.
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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How many think if they wanted to purchase what is legal to purchase, they could protect themselves from the US government, including their agents, military, bombs, etc....?
Well, the U.S. military hasn't beat a determined group of civilians in... Well, ever.
 

b00ts

pews&vrooms
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I don't mean that optimistic emoticon sarcastically. I truly feel that is an optimistic point of view.
Given that I’ve been in the military and in a combat zone against an insurgence, I’d say I have a bit more first hand knowledge on what an armed populace can do. You act like civilians wouldn’t be able to obtain weapons capable of taking out tanks, aircraft, etc. The black market for weapons is huge and there’s plenty of millionaires who would fund militias.... and if you tell the average enlisted or commissioned person they have to return to their home town to fight against its citizens, they aren’t staying. The government would need to hire contractors that give no fucks. They would have those tryhards that stay, but most would go AWOL
 
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I saw the Death Wish remake last night and if Kersey didn't have a AR-15 style gun hidden in a table, him and his daughter would have been murdered.