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Pitbull9

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Jan 28, 2015
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Ted Williams' head

It's freezing in here!
Sep 23, 2015
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Look at this idiot. He's not a politician, but I'm sure a lot of Dems feel this way.

It didn't work when Hillary was calling Trump supports "deplorables" and it's not going to work now. This is why the left will continue to lose.
 

jason73

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Jan 15, 2015
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Look at this idiot. He's not a politician, but I'm sure a lot of Dems feel this way.

It didn't work when Hillary was calling Trump supports "deplorables" and it's not going to work now. This is why the left will continue to lose.
not only will it not work the trump support base will embrace it and run with it. someone is probably printing up im a bad guy and i support president trump 100% shirts right now
 

MMAHAWK

Real Gs come from California.America Muthafucker
Feb 5, 2015
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Freeloading Rusty

Here comes Rover, sniffin’ at your ass
Jan 11, 2016
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Help me with the math on that?
So about 3 homicides per 100,000 makes 30 per million
325 million people in the country would mean 30X 325= 9,750?
In 17 years since 911 that would equal 165,750 homicides.
Obviously Texas has a higher rate but even if we say they committed 1 per 100,000 it’s 55,250.
Please point out if I’m missing a number here.
https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-112hres461ih/html/BILLS-112hres461ih.htm
according to the Government Accountability Office, there have been
25,064 homicide arrests of criminal aliens since 1955;
 

Freeloading Rusty

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Jan 11, 2016
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https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/have-undocumented-killed-63000-us-9-11/
Have Undocumented Immigrants Killed 63,000 American Citizens Since 11 September 2001?


According to data provided for the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, there have been 260,743 homicides in the United States from 2002 through 2016 (the most recent year available.) It thus seems mathematically impossible that undocumented immigrants, who make up roughly 3 percent of the population, would have committed just under a quarter of all homicides in the United States during that time period. The bogus figure appears to have originated in a May 2006 post by Republican Rep. Steve King of Iowa complaining about the “Day Without An Immigrant” campaign calling attention to the contributions of immigrants to U.S. community.

Without undocumented immigrants, he said, no one would smuggle drugs across the U.S.-Mexico border, and non-immigrants would be safer:

The lives of 12 U.S. citizens would be saved who otherwise die a violent death at the hands of murderous illegal aliens each day. Another 13 Americans would survive who are otherwise killed each day by uninsured drunk driving illegals. Our hospital emergency rooms would not be flooded with everything from gunshot wounds, to anchor babies, to imported diseases to hangnails, giving American citizens the day off from standing in line behind illegals. Eight American children would not suffer the horror as a victim of a sex crime.

A rate of 33 “deaths” per day for the roughly 4.5 years between the 9/11 attacks and the publication of King’s unsubstantiated claim would come out to 48,180 deaths in total, a rate that would far surpass the 63,000 number by 2018 — if it was legitimate.

Three years later, in 2009, King (who has a history of racist public statements) misrepresented a report from the Government Accountability Office, claiming that 25,064 undocumented immigrants had been arrested for homicides between 2004 and 2008. In fact, the statistic covered the time period between August 1955 and April 2010, a difference of nearly 51 years. The first, fraudulent timeframe would work out to about 17 arrests per day; the real timeframe works out to approximately 1.25 arrests of undocumented people for homicide per day, or 456 arrests per year.

If we multiply that figure by eighteen just to be generous (11 September 2001 to 22 June 2018), we get a final figure of about 8,218 arrests, as opposed to the faulty metric, which yields a total of around 112,790 homicide arrests in the same timeframe. (We will, for now, ignore the fact that arrests are not the same as convictions, and note that we did not factor in leap days.) So the numbers in the claim fall flat on both the amount of murders committed and the arrests and convictions made in those murders.

In March 2018 an Arizona woman, Mary Ann Mendoza, reportedly related to the president the claim that “63,000” United States citizens had been killed by undocumented immigrants. Mendoza’s son was killed in 2014 by an undocumented drunk driver.

Although the president has attempted to cast immigrants as criminals since he first announced his candidacy in June 2015, various analyses have already undermined the notion that people in the United States without documentation were more likely to commit crimes in general than those born in the country. One of those studies, published in February 2018 by the libertarian group Cato Institute, examined data on criminal convictions in Texas for 2015 and found:

There were 951 total homicide convictions in Texas in 2015. Of those, native-born Americans were convicted of 885 homicides, illegal immigrants were convicted of 51 homicides, and legal immigrants were convicted of 15 homicides. The homicide conviction rate for native-born Americans was 3.88 per 100,000, 2.9 per 100,000 for illegal immigrants, and 0.51 per 100,000 for legal immigrants (Figure 2). In 2015, homicide conviction rates for illegal and legal immigrants were 25 percent and 87 percent below those of natives, respectively.

Illegal immigrants made up about 6.4 percent of the Texas population in 2015 but only accounted for 5.4 percent of all homicide convictions. Legal immigrants made up 10.4 percent of the Texas population but accounted for only 1.6 percent of homicide convictions. native-born Americans made up 83 percent of the Texas population but accounted for 93 percent of all homicide convictions.

Although the Trump administration has called immigration at the southern U.S. border a “crisis” that has a deleterious effect on public safety, unauthorized border crossings are currently the lowest they have been in decades and studies have consistently disproved links between immigration and crime. Further most of the families who crossed during enforcement of Trump’s “zero tolerance” policy were charged with misdemeanors.
 

Freeloading Rusty

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FACT CHECK: Trump, Illegal Immigration And Crime
a February 2018 study by the Cato Institute using 2015 crime statistics from Texas found immigrants in the country illegally were 25 percent less likely to be convicted of homicide than native-born Americans.
According to the study, immigrants in the country illegally were also 11.5 percent less likely than native-born Americans to be convicted of sexual assault and 79 percent less likely to be convicted of larceny.
 

MMAHAWK

Real Gs come from California.America Muthafucker
Feb 5, 2015
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Well we only solve 2/3 of murders and we’re constantly told illegal immigrant communities are afraid to report crime. Truth is non of these stats are the actual number.

“But murder is actually the crime that's most likely to be solved, at least when looking at national statistics. In 2015, 62% of murders and non-negligent homicides in the U.S. were cleared. That rate hasn't changed much since 1995, but it's far lower than in 1965
http://www.pewresearch
 

MMAHAWK

Real Gs come from California.America Muthafucker
Feb 5, 2015
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Snopes has been outed for misinformation and being politically motivated. Find a real source.
It doesn’t exist because actual stats on illegal immigrants has never been done. We don’t even know how many are in the country is it 8 million, 11 million, 14 million, or 20 million.
 

Papi Chingon

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Oct 19, 2015
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Yeah?

Please tell me your not talking the Soros conspiracy theory?

What about NPR?

Are they bias too?
I know nothing about the soros theory. There are plenty of sources online documenting the inaccuracies of their site. Furthermore, there are plenty of websites and articles showing their inaccuracies in reference to Republicans. Google is out there for you. I suppose this will motivate you to search "snopes is not owned by liberals, and is 100% accurate with no bias." Go ahead. While you're at it search for "CNN is the most accurate, unbiased news station."