You're a Canadian social worker. We don't have the same frame of reference.Dont play games with us Garvey.
You're a Canadian social worker. We don't have the same frame of reference.Dont play games with us Garvey.
I have experience with 2 of those healthcare systems, they both have pretty large problems.You forgot to mention Canada.
and Australia.
and most of Europe.
and Japan.
and Russia.
and Brazil, Argentina and Chile.
...All have nationalized healthcare systems.
I'll trade you thenI have experience with 2 of those healthcare systems, they both have pretty large problems.
LoL at Brazil, Argentina, Chile, Russia...you want to live in those countries? Are you travelling there for your medical care?You forgot to mention Canada.
and Australia.
and most of Europe.
and Japan.
and Russia.
and Brazil, Argentina and Chile.
...All have nationalized healthcare systems.
What's the difference?LoL at Brazil, Argentina, Chile, Russia...you want to live in those countries? Are you travelling there for your medical care?
"Socialism is perhaps the only ideology that Americans are asked to judge solely based on its piddling "successes." Don't you dare mention Albania or Algeria or Angola or Burma or Congo or Cuba or Ethiopia or Laos or Somalia or Vietnam or Yemen or, well, any other of the dozens of other inconvenient places socialism has been tried. Not when there are a handful of Scandinavian countries operating generous welfare-state programs propped up by underlying vibrant capitalism and natural resources.
Of course, socialism exists on a spectrum, and even if we accept that the Nordic social-program experiments are the most benign iteration of collectivism, they are certainly not the only version. Pretending otherwise would be like saying, "The police state of Singapore is more successful than Denmark. Let's give it a spin."
Sorry If You're Offended, but Socialism Leads to Misery and Destitution
appreciate the banter, look forward to your response.
then we should drop it to preserve the funny of the thread.
It's not an "either, or" proposition. Just because one system has been ruined by the government doesn't mean the solution is another system ruined by the government. The problem is the same with both systems.I'll trade you then
Your government-run system is still better than our private carrier system, bruvIt's not an "either, or" proposition. Just because one system has been ruined by the government doesn't mean the solution is another system ruined by the government. The problem is the same with both systems.
If youre chronically ill, yes. If you're reasonably healthy, it's debatable.Your government-run system is still better than our private carrier system, bruv
there is tremendous waste in our health care system. i agree that it is better than the american system but it could be improved upon a lot.it leaks money like a sieveYour government-run system is still better than our private carrier system, bruv
No idea. Gonna have to ask the boss (wife) as it's through her employer and comes out of her paycheckIf youre chronically ill, yes. If you're reasonably healthy, it's debatable.
What does health insurance cost you per year?
Does the lunch lady have the same frame of reference as you?You're a Canadian social worker. We don't have the same frame of reference.
About $250 a month, and it sucks. Every week 12 additional dollars are taken because of a smoking clause. Don't smoke cigarettes. They pay 75% of medical. Don't use as we are both fit. This is not including vision and dental. That's just me and the wife. Work requires it. Kids insurance don't get me started.If youre chronically ill, yes. If you're reasonably healthy, it's debatable.
What does health insurance cost you per year?
About $250 a month, and it sucks. Every week 12 additional dollars are taken because of a smoking clause. Don't smoke cigarettes. They pay 75% of medical. Don't use as we are both fit. This is not including vision and dental. That's just me and the wife. Work requires it. Kids insurance don't get me started.
That doesn't include prescriptions, dental, or vision. It also doesn't take into account treatments that may be available but aren't "approved" under your specific provinces healthcare. That's also ignoring the excruciatingly long wait times. If you happen to be filthy rich and have the ability to say "I'll pay a doctor out of my pocket because I want the surgery now." Tough shit, you have to wait or go out of the country.According to Statistics Canada, Canadians spent a total of $141 billion on health care that year. The authors divided that number by the Canadian population, concluding that, on average, each Canadian contributes $3,961 for health care each year.
If youre chronically ill, yes. If you're reasonably healthy, it's debatable.
What does health insurance cost you per year?
I never appreciated our universal healthcare until I was off work for almost a year and a half due to an incarcerated inguinal hernia, auto accident, and hypothyroidism occurring In the same timeframe.That doesn't include prescriptions, dental, or vision. It also doesn't take into account treatments that may be available but aren't "approved" under your specific provinces healthcare. That's also ignoring the excruciatingly long wait times. If you happen to be filthy rich and have the ability to say "I'll pay a doctor out of my pocket because I want the surgery now." Tough shit, you have to wait or go out of the country.
and I always appreciated our universal healthcare until my wife had a miscarriage and encountered 12 hours ER wait times, and hospital staff who could not have cared less about the mental or physical comfort of their patients. The time we needed the system the most, it failed us miserably, and on almost every level.I never appreciated our universal healthcare until I was off work for almost a year and a half due to an incarcerated inguinal hernia, auto accident, and hypothyroidism occurring In the same timeframe.