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Thank you to @Splinty for wisely utilising my post as the thread title change.
Good choice, maygn.

Now let's discus royalties.
nah son

I stopped reading this thread 100+ pages ago. Unless you guys have Jeb memes, title changes are just from current headlines
 

KWingJitsu

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nah son

I stopped reading this thread 100+ pages ago. Unless you guys have Jeb memes, title changes are just from current headlines
Claims he stopped reading 100 pages ago
Posts on page 499 ......



It's okay - it just means we're on the same page mentally, because my post:
Damn, Son.

The call Resistance is coming from inside the (white) house!

CNN.com: Anonymous senior administration official admits to working against Trump in
NYT op-ed.
Trump slams damning New York Times op-ed as 'gutless' - CNNPolitics
We're more alike than you think, you and I, Bob.
May I call you Bob?
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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So depo-provera shots, IUD's and and birth control pills induce abortions?
It depends on how one defines conception. Most people would agree that when a sperm penetrates the egg you've got yourself a pregnancy. Birth control will make the uterus incapable of sustaining said fertilized egg. So in a word, yes.

Now if you want to make the argument that conception occurs at another time, that's fair, but it would be extremely arbitrary. Conversely, people could just not fuck for 6 days (or less) of the month and never have to worry about it.
 

Freeloading Rusty

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It depends on how one defines conception. Most people would agree that when a sperm penetrates the egg you've got yourself a pregnancy. Birth control will make the uterus incapable of sustaining said fertilized egg. So in a word, yes.

Now if you want to make the argument that conception occurs at another time, that's fair, but it would be extremely arbitrary. Conversely, people could just not fuck for 6 days (or less) of the month and never have to worry about it.
A sperm fails to/is unable to penetrate the egg if the majority of the birth control mentioned above did its job correctly.
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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A sperm fails to/is unable to penetrate the egg if the majority of the birth control mentioned above did its job correctly.
It doesn't always, which is why they add in fail safes.

I think you may be confusing contraceptives (prevent egg from being fertilized) with birth control (prevents birth).
 

maurice

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Most people would agree that when a sperm penetrates the egg you've got yourself a pregnancy.
You don't really tho. Chick ain't knocked up if the egg never lodges, and fertilized eggs fail to lodge naturally all the damn time. Nobody cares or even notices when this happens. They certainly don't consider it an "abortion."
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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IUD is birth control.

Depo shot is birth control.

Both prevent pregnancy before any form of conception, however you define it.
and if by some miracle the sperm makes it to the egg and makes it's way in there. It still won't be able to attach itself to the uterus lining.
 

BeardOfKnowledge

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Chick ain't knocked up if the egg never lodges, and fertilized eggs fail to lodge naturally all the damn time. Nobody cares or even notices when this happens. They certainly don't consider it an "abortion."
"Naturally" is the keyword. A miscarriage also isn't considered an abortion.
 
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Freeloading Rusty

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and if by some miracle the sperm makes it to the egg and makes it's way in there. It still won't be able to attach itself to the uterus lining.
The professionals disagree.
"It's completely misleading," Amy Bryant, an assistant professor of obstetrics and gynecology at the University of North Carolina, said of the term "life-ending device."

"It makes it seem like having an IUD in place is the same as having an abortion on a regular basis, which doesn't really make any sense," she said. "That's not their mechanism of action."

There are two types of IUDs. The hormonal IUD prevents pregnancy when implanted in the uterus by releasing low levels of progestin, a synthetic version of the naturally occurring hormone progesterone. The progestin thickens the cervical mucus and thins out the uterine lining, creating a hostile environment where the sperm can't reach the egg. While experts can't say with 100 percent certainty exactly which of these actions is responsible for pregnancy prevention at any given time, none of them stops a fertilized egg from implanting in the uterus. Instead, the mechanisms stop an egg from being fertilized in the first place.

And even if a woman were to get pregnant while using the hormonal IUD (chances of which are very close to zero), the hormonal IUD wouldn't hurt her pregnancy, which is why hormonal IUDs aren't used as emergency contraception, according to Bryant. In fact, in this unlikely situation, the progestin in the IUD might actually help the pregnancy, since the body naturally releases the hormone after fertilization.
How IUDs Really Work (And No, They Don't Terminate Pregnancies)