Windows 10

[ThatOneDude]

theres been some talk about a new wifi issue with windows 10 that is on by default. not sure if this is a big issue or what. but thought id post it for the people that installed it and didnt know about it.

Windows 10 Security: How to disable Wi-Fi Sense | BGR

How to protect yourself against Windows 10’s controversial new Wi-Fi Sense feature

Microsoft added a new feature to Windows 10 called Wi-Fi Sense. It’s a very smart feature that allows trusted users to connect to a Wi-Fi network without needing to know the network’s password, and it’s the first time that technology like this has been available so widely.

That said, there are some obvious and serious security implications that have been a big concern for many of Windows 10’s early adopters and critics.

There are two main problems here. First, Wi-Fi Sense means people you don’t know can connect to your secure Wi-Fi network without even knowing the password. Second, Wi-Fi Sense creates a direct connection between two computers that the user of the host PC does not initiate. Today, that connection is safe and secure… but as a version of Murphy’s law modified for the digital age states, anything that can be hacked, will be hacked.

So let’s cut to the chase: How can you disable and block Wi-Fi Sense?

There are a couple of things you’ll need to do. First, on your Windows 10 computer, open the PC’s Settings and then click Network and Internet followed by Wi-Fi. Under Manage Wi-Fi, disable all of Wi-Fi Sense’s features.

Next, you’ll have to protect your home Wi-Fi network and ensure that other users with Wi-Fi Sense cannot connect to it. In order to do this, you’ll have to rename your network’s SSID so that it ends with “_optout.” So, for example, if your network’s name right now is “MyISPstinkz,” you’ll have to rename it to “MyISPstinkz_optout.”

Alternatively, you can set up a guest network that visitors will be able to access, but you’ll need a router capable of supporting multiple wireless networks.

Do you know the reasoning for the _output?

 

[IschKabibble]

theres been some talk about a new wifi issue with windows 10 that is on by default. not sure if this is a big issue or what. but thought id post it for the people that installed it and didnt know about it.

Windows 10 Security: How to disable Wi-Fi Sense | BGR

How to protect yourself against Windows 10’s controversial new Wi-Fi Sense feature

Microsoft added a new feature to Windows 10 called Wi-Fi Sense. It’s a very smart feature that allows trusted users to connect to a Wi-Fi network without needing to know the network’s password, and it’s the first time that technology like this has been available so widely.

That said, there are some obvious and serious security implications that have been a big concern for many of Windows 10’s early adopters and critics.

There are two main problems here. First, Wi-Fi Sense means people you don’t know can connect to your secure Wi-Fi network without even knowing the password. Second, Wi-Fi Sense creates a direct connection between two computers that the user of the host PC does not initiate. Today, that connection is safe and secure… but as a version of Murphy’s law modified for the digital age states, anything that can be hacked, will be hacked.

So let’s cut to the chase: How can you disable and block Wi-Fi Sense?

There are a couple of things you’ll need to do. First, on your Windows 10 computer, open the PC’s Settings and then click Network and Internet followed by Wi-Fi. Under Manage Wi-Fi, disable all of Wi-Fi Sense’s features.

Next, you’ll have to protect your home Wi-Fi network and ensure that other users with Wi-Fi Sense cannot connect to it. In order to do this, you’ll have to rename your network’s SSID so that it ends with “_optout.” So, for example, if your network’s name right now is “MyISPstinkz,” you’ll have to rename it to “MyISPstinkz_optout.”

Alternatively, you can set up a guest network that visitors will be able to access, but you’ll need a router capable of supporting multiple wireless networks.

If I'm not mistaken, this feature is tied to your Microsoft account. So if you login to your PC with a local account, this shouldn't affect you. My network settings prompt me to sign-in with a Microsoft account to enable Wifi Sense.

 

[lookoutawhale]

Do you know the reasoning for the _output?

it seems that by adding "_optout" after your wifi network name, anyone with wi-fi sense then can't connect to it according to the article.

seems the default has it on, so you have to manual opt out.

 

[lookoutawhale]

If I'm not mistaken, this feature is tied to your Microsoft account. So if you login to your PC with a local account, this shouldn't affect you. My network settings prompt me to sign-in with a Microsoft account to enable Wifi Sense.

ok cool. good to hear. I never installed windows 10, but i knew you guys here did, so thought id throw that little piece on here so your computers are secure.

 

[Wild]

Windows 7 or go fuck your mother.

 

[lookoutawhale]

aye..

Windows 10 Checks For Pirate Bay Torrents, Bootleg Games And Hardware Automatically

Windows 10 Checks For Pirate Bay Torrents, Bootleg Games And Hardware Automatically

Don't plan on using any games or bootleg software downloaded from the Pirate Bay on Windows 10. The End User License Agreement in the new operating system makes it clear that Windows 10 is capable of scanning user machines and prohibiting them from using any services that appear to have been obtained illegally.

Section 7b of Microsoft's Services EULA (under “Updates to the Services or Software, and Changes to These Terms”) warns users that Windows 10 “may automatically check your version of the software and download software updates or configuration changes, including those that prevent you from accessing the services, playing counterfeit games, or using unauthorized hardware peripheral devices.”

By agreeing to these terms, Alphr.com reported, users are enabling Microsoft to sift through their files in search of the vaguely defined “unauthorized hardware peripheral devices,” which could mean anything from modified Xbox controllers to unauthorized versions of Microsoft Office.

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Windows 10 will monitor and disable all ‘pirated’ software and hardware

Windows 10 will monitor and disable all ‘pirated’ software and hardware

Windows 10 will block access to any pirated software and hardware it can identify on a PC, phone or other mobile device, according to an updated section of Microsoft’s European End User License Agreement (EULA).

The details related to counterfeit programmes comes under section 7b titled ‘Updates to the Services or Software, and Changes to These Terms’ which reads:

“Sometimes you'll need software updates to keep using the Services. We may automatically check your version of the software and download software updates or configuration changes, including those that prevent you from accessing the Services, playing counterfeit games, or using unauthorized hardware peripheral devices. You may also be required to update the software to continue using the Services.”

 

[ThatOneDude]

aye..

Windows 10 Checks For Pirate Bay Torrents, Bootleg Games And Hardware Automatically

Windows 10 Checks For Pirate Bay Torrents, Bootleg Games And Hardware Automatically

Don't plan on using any games or bootleg software downloaded from the Pirate Bay on Windows 10. The End User License Agreement in the new operating system makes it clear that Windows 10 is capable of scanning user machines and prohibiting them from using any services that appear to have been obtained illegally.

Section 7b of Microsoft's Services EULA (under “Updates to the Services or Software, and Changes to These Terms”) warns users that Windows 10 “may automatically check your version of the software and download software updates or configuration changes, including those that prevent you from accessing the services, playing counterfeit games, or using unauthorized hardware peripheral devices.”

By agreeing to these terms, Alphr.com reported, users are enabling Microsoft to sift through their files in search of the vaguely defined “unauthorized hardware peripheral devices,” which could mean anything from modified Xbox controllers to unauthorized versions of Microsoft Office.

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Windows 10 will monitor and disable all ‘pirated’ software and hardware

Windows 10 will monitor and disable all ‘pirated’ software and hardware

Windows 10 will block access to any pirated software and hardware it can identify on a PC, phone or other mobile device, according to an updated section of Microsoft’s European End User License Agreement (EULA).

The details related to counterfeit programmes comes under section 7b titled ‘Updates to the Services or Software, and Changes to These Terms’ which reads:

“Sometimes you'll need software updates to keep using the Services. We may automatically check your version of the software and download software updates or configuration changes, including those that prevent you from accessing the Services, playing counterfeit games, or using unauthorized hardware peripheral devices. You may also be required to update the software to continue using the Services.”

Mustn't have been implemented yet then....

 

[lookoutawhale]

Mustn't have been implemented yet then....

if it does will you go back to 7 or keep 10 and hope for a patch?

 

[ThatOneDude]

if it does will you go back to 7 or keep 10 and hope for a patch?

Yes back to 7 at home

 

[Deleted member 1]

There are two main problems here. First, Wi-Fi Sense means people you don’t know can connect to your secure Wi-Fi network without even knowing the password. Second, Wi-Fi Sense creates a direct connection between two computers that the user of the host PC does not initiate. Today, that connection is safe and secure… but as a version of Murphy’s law modified for the digital age states, anything that can be hacked, will be hacked.

This isn't really true as best as I can tell -- don't know can connect to your secure wifi??

Wifi sense just lets you choose to share your known wireless access with a group of known contacts.

So I'm at home, I log into my network, I get an option that says "share this network to my contacts".

I agree there might need to be some tweaking for certain application, but I disagree that this is a privacy issue. I already tell the password to my friends. Now I can just simply share access to them via encrypted key instead of them knowing the password and typing it in, then hitting save.

I guess I'm missing the big deal.

 

[Deleted member 1]

aye..

Windows 10 Checks For Pirate Bay Torrents, Bootleg Games And Hardware Automatically

Yall gonna make me sound like a shill...I'm just a skeptic.

Microsoft can automatically disable pirated games on Windows 10 [Update: Maybe not]
Microsoft can automatically disable pirated games on Windows 10 [Update: Maybe not] | Windows Central

Update: Microsoft's Services EULA is different from the one governing Windows (Microsoft Software License Terms), which means that the amendments Microsoft added recently were to protect against counterfeiting of Xbox Live and Windows Store content, and not monitoring (or disabling) illicit content on Windows 10.

 

[lookoutawhale]

Yall gonna make me sound like a shill...I'm just a skeptic.

Microsoft can automatically disable pirated games on Windows 10 [Update: Maybe not]
Microsoft can automatically disable pirated games on Windows 10 [Update: Maybe not] | Windows Central

hehe there is a warning within that article too:

While Microsoft's stance against counterfeit games is understandable given the rampant video game piracy, the definition of what constitutes as "unauthorized hardware" is unclear. Also, the wording does not reflect whether the ability to automatically disable counterfeit software will be limited to games, or whether it'll be extended to other software such as Microsoft's own Office platform and Adobe's Creative Cloud suite, both of which are prone to piracy.

We'll have more details to share in the coming days. While the ability to detect and disable counterfeit software and games will be alluring to developers — especially considering earlier versions of Windows made it easy to obtain pirated software illegally — it remains to be seen how this move will affect consumers, who will undoubtedly feel Microsoft's actions to be invasive.

The Redmond giant came under fire for the amount of data it collects with Windows 10, and this recent revelation will raise more concerns.


Windows 10 can still connect to Microsoft's servers, even if users enable privacy features

As Ars Technica reports, some of the information that is being sent seems to be harmless, with no machine identification being transmitted to Microsoft. However, there is other data that's being sent to Microsoft that is not as clear:

"Windows 10 will periodically send data to a Microsoft server named ssw.live.com. This server seems to be used for OneDrive and some other Microsoft services. Windows 10 seems to transmit information to the server even when OneDrive is disabled and logins are using a local account that isn't connected to a Microsoft Account. The exact nature of the information being sent isn't clear—it appears to be referencing telemetry settings—and again, it's not clear why any data is being sent at all."

In a statement, Microsoft said:

"As part of delivering Windows 10 as a service, updates may be delivered to provide ongoing new features to Bing search, such as new visual layouts, styles and search code. No query or search usage data is sent to Microsoft, in accordance with the customer's chosen privacy settings. This also applies to searching offline for items such as apps, files and settings on the device."

 

[lookoutawhale]

This isn't really true as best as I can tell -- don't know can connect to your secure wifi??

Wifi sense just lets you choose to share your known wireless access with a group of known contacts.

So I'm at home, I log into my network, I get an option that says "share this network to my contacts".

I agree there might need to be some tweaking for certain application, but I disagree that this is a privacy issue. I already tell the password to my friends. Now I can just simply share access to them via encrypted key instead of them knowing the password and typing it in, then hitting save.

I guess I'm missing the big deal.

yeah im not quite sure what is going down as i don't have Windows 10 installed.

I pasted some of the Windows 10 stuff i came across regarding the new features so people can have a look to see if this will be an issue or not for them.

 

[IschKabibble]

I don't trust Microsoft, but I can't fully abandon them due to work-related software. I'm starting to think I need to host and access all of my private data (financial documents, pictures, videos, etc) on a strictly open source platform. That's not to say those platforms don't have security holes that can be exploited, but it sickens me to think a corporation could remotely access my personal stuff.

Ideal setup would be Ubuntu or Debian server hosting an installation of OwnCloud. Remember how all those celebrities had their nudes leaked? It's foolish to host your data one someone else's computer. Let alone a corporation like Microsoft that has ties to the NSA.

 

[lookoutawhale]

It's foolish to host your data one someone else's computer. Let alone a corporation like Microsoft that has ties to the NSA.

that's really poignant. I agree it is starting to seem like we are using other people's hardware.

LG was under fire for their smart televisions sending information and tv viewing habits back to their company.

Kinda crazy that everyone activity on cell phones, computers, televisions are all being watched.

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LG smart TVs send data about users' files and viewing habits to the company | PCWorld

LG smart TVs send data about users' files and viewing habits to the company
Smart TVs manufactured by LG Electronics are sending information about users’ viewing habits and files back to the company’s servers. The company confirmed the behavior and said it plans to release firmware updates to correct it.