Fuck me so was max vs Bryan.
But the others mentioned went longer. Jones vs Shogun was just a bad bad asskicking
But the others mentioned went longer. Jones vs Shogun was just a bad bad asskicking
Gustafsson LOST to Jones In Both
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People go to too many extremes on this fight. I thought Jones won it first time I watched it, but rewatching it I'd score it a draw under the 10-point system (1 and 3 for Gus, 2 and 5 for Jones, 10-10 round 4). I wouldn't even hesitate declaring it a draw under Pride scoring.
U are so mad right now
I am cooler than the cucumbers Jones lined his bones on after he flatlined Shogun and made him tap.
I have reached the 37th chamber
4 posts per minute pace tho
For the ten minutes I've just sat down maybe. If that's the case I need a doctor as I have obviously lost pace and am probably dying
don't forget PED-Anderson vs Rich Franklin. Rich looked like a Tin Man in the Wrecking Yard.
This is a stretch.
Guys have gained an undeniable advantage with head kicks, and guys have also landed head kicks that seemingly didn't phase their opponents at all. Why would saying that particular spinning elbow landing gave Jon an undeniable advantage require also saying that every spinning elbow wins a fight?
So in your scoring system one takedown, no matter what is done with it, nets you the equivalent to half of a round of superior striking?
Are you suggesting the spinning elbow in this fight was enough to say one man was clearly the better fighter than the other?
If this is at me, I don't know where you're suggesting I am saying a takedown is the equivalent to half of a round of superior striking.
My stance is pretty clear. Both fighters did a lot in the fight, but not enough to establish enough momentum for me to think one was clearly better than the other.
One takedown, one spinning elbow, none of those are enough to be a deciding factor to me.
It provided him with an undeniable advantage for the remainder of the bout. That's the criteria you chose.
Conor McGregor's one punch vs Jose Aldo. Was that a draw too?
Please tell me where I gave my criteria. I'm saying just b/c he landed a spinning elbow, that doesn't mean in a close fight that should give him the edge. If the fight was dead even, and that one strike was landed, I don't think that one strike would be enough to justify calling someone the winner, rankings being adjusted as such, pay being given as such.
Are you serious? Of course that's an example of an undeniable advantage. Jose was slept. Can't get more undeniable than that. Are you now trying to say Jones/Gus was equal to Aldo/Conor on a competitive level? These post are becoming strange.
I scored it for Jones originally but I've changed my mind. Gus dominated 4/5 minutes of the round and hit Jones with some prety good shots, messing his face up. And where do we draw the line at 'almost KOd?' Jones never dropped Gus and most of the follow up shots were blocked. It was a big moment but not big enough for me to cancel out Gus' work in the rest of the round entirely.Round 4 10-10???
Jones almost KO'd Gus in that round......
So you can protest all you want, but it's not an easy round to score.
I always thought round 1 was the most even one. Gus got the shocking takedown, but Jones popped right up, so it shouldn't have had much impact on the scoring. Otherwise, Gus landed a couple of decent punches and Jones had a a few kicks and an elbow at the end. I thought Gus took more of an advantage in round 2 and especially 3.
You asked specifically about an undeniable advantage. After that elbow, Jones dominated and continued to do more and more damage. That was caused by adjustments Jones made, and the damage of that spinning elbow. That is an undeniable advantage.
That was my rebuttal to you indicating that one strike won’t sway it for you.
Btw the “one TD is equal to a half round of superior striking” was in reference to the OP, not to you.
My opinion is that one strike can absolutely change a fight, and give one of the fighters an undeniable advantage moving forward. Jones’s spinning elbow in that particular situation meets that criteria for me. My biggest beef is the “if you say that spinning elbow gave him an undeniable advantage, then you think that every spinning elbow automatically wins a fight.” That was a deflection that doesn’t serve to actually set fair parameters within your criteria.
Agree that one strike can make a difference. I strongly disagree the spinning elbow that didn't even drop Gus was not one.
Conor's one straight left to Aldo, THAT is one strike that made a difference.
Please do not tell me you think that Jones' spinning elbow is the same level as Conor's fight ending straight left against Aldo.
Further more, would it be fair to say that Chael Sonnen's stand up strikes and ground and pound on Anderson Silva were more damaging than the one spinning elbow from Jones? I say yes and look how that fight ended.
Conor's one straight left to Aldo, THAT is one strike that made a difference.
Please do not tell me you think that Jones' spinning elbow is the same level as Conor's fight ending straight left against Aldo.
Further more, would it be fair to say that Chael Sonnen's stand up strikes and ground and pound on Anderson Silva were more damaging than the one spinning elbow from Jones? I say yes and look how that fight ended.