Society Is it End Time?

Tuc Ouiner said:
Getting back to the original question, sorry to interrupt the cat fight, but no these aren't the end times, but if that blimp was in Alaska where I happily reside-- people would shoot it just for fun. Nuthin 'gainst ya'll sofistakated city-slickers watchin' big flat screened tellies wit Sigs in yore lap an textin' 4 honeyz at once on yer smart phone, but we happy like we iz yo.
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TryHardNobody said:
The minority report shit is gonna come when they have everyone's data saved up in bluffdale and they can analyze ppls entire lives. They will know almost everything about you and be able to run peoples lives through supercomputers. They will be able to spot criminals before they become criminals
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That time is already here.
 
Wild said:
Amazon is a monster. It's going to be interesting to watch play out whenever Wal Mart decides they've had enough. Wal Mart dwarfs Amazon in terms of cash reserves and profitability. My guess is they decide to crash Amazon's party soon.
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No they don't. Amazon's retail services are not its main moneymaker.
 
Kneeblock said:
That time is already here.
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Not yet. They don't have ppls entire lives yet or the computing power to analyze all of it. It will be soon though. Once they can analyze a hundred million ppl from birth to old age....all ur texts, calls, purchasesG, Google searches, porn, your daily movements, likes on fb, work history, tv shows you watch, dna, criminal record etc and take all that for criminals and regular ppl and find what similarities criminals have right before they commit crimes, they will be coming to talk to you before you do anything.
 
TryHardNobody said:
Not yet. They don't have ppls entire lives yet or the computing power to analyze all of it. It will be soon though. Once they can analyze a hundred million ppl from birth to old age....all ur texts, calls, purchasesG, Google searches, porn, your daily movements, likes on fb, work history, tv shows you watch, dna, criminal record etc and take all that for criminals and regular ppl and find what similarities criminals have right before they commit crimes, they will be coming to talk to you before you do anything.
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You don't need all those data points to put together an actionable profile on a user. I think a common misconception is that you need a wholly thorough picture, when far less is sufficient and already used. China, for example, has its social credit system being used in tandem with facial recognition and a totalizing surveillance system of CCTV monitoring and biometrics. All of this is fed into machine learning systems that can infer more than they would ever need to precisely know.

Remember, the picture doesn't have to be accurate in order to be used. It just has to be an adequate enough proxy to make predictive inferences. We're well past that stage.
 
I guess it makes sense since the faa doesn't let them fly drones where they can't see them, right? But I don't like it - we shouldn't let them take the sky like that. It's creepy and dangerous because when they're hacked it's going to be horrible.

My guess is that if amazon pulls this off, they will begin selling delivery services to competition, and eventually walmart will just start using them that way, the way Netflix uses Amazon to host their content even though Amazon has a competing service. Amazon services to us are infrastructure tests, and then they sell that infrastructure to other sellers - the third party seller marketplace, amazon checkout through other sellers, amazon web services, and now this creepy sh*t. They have already implemented their own network of delivery people, and now I see people driving vans with the amazon logo, so it's just a matter of time.
 
nuraknu said:
I guess it makes sense since the faa doesn't let them fly drones where they can't see them, right? But I don't like it - we shouldn't let them take the sky like that. It's creepy and dangerous because when they're hacked it's going to be horrible.

My guess is that if amazon pulls this off, they will begin selling delivery services to competition, and eventually walmart will just start using them that way, the way Netflix uses Amazon to host their content even though Amazon has a competing service. Amazon services to us are infrastructure tests, and then they sell that infrastructure to other sellers - the third party seller marketplace, amazon checkout through other sellers, amazon web services, and now this creepy sh*t. They have already implemented their own network of delivery people, and now I see people driving vans with the amazon logo, so it's just a matter of time.
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Agree with everything you covered on Amazon - doesnt hurt Bezos owns the Washington Post now and works hand in hand with the DOD.

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?


Pentagon chief James Mattis meets with Amazon chief Jeff Bezos during tech tour
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Wild said:
Amazon is a monster. It's going to be interesting to watch play out whenever Wal Mart decides they've had enough. Wal Mart dwarfs Amazon in terms of cash reserves and profitability. My guess is they decide to crash Amazon's party soon.
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Amazon has more cash on hand. Walmart has more than twice the revenue.


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And yet, walmart and others can't get their online shopping right. Sites are shit and cluttered and do a poor job of helping find the item you are looking for, let alone smartly suggesting other stuff you might want (to upsell you).
Amazon's site isn't exactly the greatest thing I've ever seen, but the algorithms for prioritizing long with associated items seems WAY better than many others...and with so much money I'm not sure how that continues to be the case. Amazon's tech is infinitely expandable beyond the store to all the other arenas they keep entering.

The future is hybrid web/store shopping. Walmart could make an online revamp and squeeze Amazon fast. I'm just so unimpressed with their online offerings right now. They still have customer Q&As at the bottom of the page even. They underestimate how important other buyers input is over the technical details that they prioritize at the top.
 
Splinty said:
Amazon has more cash on hand. Walmart has more than twice the revenue.


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And yet, walmart and others can't get their online shopping right. Sites are shit and cluttered and do a poor job of helping find the item you are looking for, let alone smartly suggesting other stuff you might want (to upsell you).
Amazon's site isn't exactly the greatest thing I've ever seen, but the algorithms for prioritizing long with associated items seems WAY better than many others...and with so much money I'm not sure how that continues to be the case. Amazon's tech is infinitely expandable beyond the store to all the other arenas they keep entering.
The future is hybrid web/store shopping. Walmart could make an online revamp and squeeze Amazon fast. I'm just so unimpressed with their online offerings right now. They still have customer Q&As at the bottom of the page even. They underestimate how important other buyers input is over the technical details that they prioritize at the top.
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I just don't see Wal Mart allowing Amazon to continue to steal market share at the current pace. I expect Wal Mart to put some of that cash to work, and we'll see the improvements to their website, online offerings, door-to-door consumer deliveries, etc.
 
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