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gangsterkathryn

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Please tell me you didn't make that poor kid bring that to skool. How was his first day? We start Wed. in Broward. Makes no sense to me.
No! It didn’t even go in the car!

His first day was good. I worked so much yesterday that I was able to pick him up before work tonight. He has no friends in his home class, but he does have some in advanced math since he was with them last year. And one of his best friends is still in second grade.
That’s about all I got out of him.
 

Never_Rolled

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No! It didn’t even go in the car!

His first day was good. I worked so much yesterday that I was able to pick him up before work tonight. He has no friends in his home class, but he does have some in advanced math since he was with them last year. And one of his best friends is still in second grade.
That’s about all I got out of him.
OK so we won't have to have you Baker Acted. When he is in honors and advanced classes the kids he will meet will be on his level. They are usually more serious and better behaved. I went through all this with my son. The older they get if they stay on the same path it will continue. My son once in a while talks with kids who aren't in his classes and I hate to say it but there is a huge difference. They are already behind the 8ball and don't even know it. He will make new friends and be just fine.
 

gangsterkathryn

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OK so we won't have to have you Baker Acted. When he is in honors and advanced classes the kids he will meet will be on his level. They are usually more serious and better behaved. I went through all this with my son. The older they get if they stay on the same path it will continue. My son once in a while talks with kids who aren't in his classes and I hate to say it but there is a huge difference. They are already behind the 8ball and don't even know it. He will make new friends and be just fine.
I’m going to have him tested this year because his second grade teachers, the guidance counselor, and his speech counselor said he truly needs to be in the other class full time. The ESE coordinator last year wasn’t trained in ESE because she was only temporary while someone was on FMLA, and refused to test him (after talking to multiple teachers and parents, no one likes her). I don’t know who the new one is, yet, but we will be pushing harder this year. I ran into his speech counselor the other day at work, and while she left the school (because of the previously mentioned, unliked woman), she gave me her info to contact for private testing if we felt like the school was not accommodating our request. She said she could probably get it taken care of for free for us.
For science and math, he definitely needs the advanced class... my only concern is reading, but more because he doesn’t like to do so when it doesn’t interest him. We had a very serious conversation this year, though, because it’s testing year.
 

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Some parallels here. When my son was very young I'm thinking around kindergarten but it could be even before that some teachers thought something might be off about him. I took him for tests, one Neuro wanted an MRI but he would need general to stay still. I declined. I understood him perfectly but some teachers I guess not. Broward County sent us to Pompano where they had speech paths. We were there for hours. Finally we had answers. They told us he was completely normal. His speech was because he was speaking two languages at such a young age. That was years ago. Since his mother isn't in the picture any more he completely forget Portuguese but has 4 years of Spanish under his belt.

The summer of 4th grade the school called. He was a normal student. Good grades but not outstanding. They said based on his test scores he qualified for gifted classes. They probably never had a parent say "can I get back to you". I wanted to discuss it with my son first. To my surprise he was really excited about it. Ever since then a switch flipped in him. He likes being "smart". He's a straight A student taking 4 AP classes this year as a junior. That phone call so many years ago made a huge difference. We had him tested back then also. He was shy of gifted level by 2 points even though they put him in those classes. They based it on the FSA scores. The little shit has been bugging me ever since to pay for a retest. Most shrinks charge about $500. The school will do it for free. Some kids claim they had higher scores from the shrinks. I'm not paying $500 for an unneeded ego boost, plus I know he's smarter than me but that isn't saying much.

A couple times in middle school he decided unilaterally he needed a break for a quarter. I wasn't checking everyday and he would just not do some work and get a B here and there once a C. Next quarter straight A's again after I got on him. Watch his grades like a hawk. I'm sure PB has a website with daily input from the teachers like Broward has. My son is very competitive with school. MY GF's family is also littered with overachievers. He likes being an equal among them so that helps. He likes when overachieving adults tell him they were just like he was as a kid.

Keep him around smart people. :)
 

gangsterkathryn

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Some parallels here. When my son was very young I'm thinking around kindergarten but it could be even before that some teachers thought something might be off about him. I took him for tests, one Neuro wanted an MRI but he would need general to stay still. I declined. I understood him perfectly but some teachers I guess not. Broward County sent us to Pompano where they had speech paths. We were there for hours. Finally we had answers. They told us he was completely normal. His speech was because he was speaking two languages at such a young age. That was years ago. Since his mother isn't in the picture any more he completely forget Portuguese but has 4 years of Spanish under his belt.

The summer of 4th grade the school called. He was a normal student. Good grades but not outstanding. They said based on his test scores he qualified for gifted classes. They probably never had a parent say "can I get back to you". I wanted to discuss it with my son first. To my surprise he was really excited about it. Ever since then a switch flipped in him. He likes being "smart". He's a straight A student taking 4 AP classes this year as a junior. That phone call so many years ago made a huge difference. We had him tested back then also. He was shy of gifted level by 2 points even though they put him in those classes. They based it on the FSA scores. The little shit has been bugging me ever since to pay for a retest. Most shrinks charge about $500. The school will do it for free. Some kids claim they had higher scores from the shrinks. I'm not paying $500 for an unneeded ego boost, plus I know he's smarter than me but that isn't saying much.

A couple times in middle school he decided unilaterally he needed a break for a quarter. I wasn't checking everyday and he would just not do some work and get a B here and there once a C. Next quarter straight A's again after I got on him. Watch his grades like a hawk. I'm sure PB has a website with daily input from the teachers like Broward has. My son is very competitive with school. MY GF's family is also littered with overachievers. He likes being an equal among them so that helps. He likes when overachieving adults tell him they were just like he was as a kid.

Keep him around smart people. :)
The speech path told me to push the school because if you request it, they are required to test. So you might as well do the same.

I know that struggled. I am prepared for him to be smarter than me.
 

Never_Rolled

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The speech path told me to push the school because if you request it, they are required to test. So you might as well do the same.

I know that struggled. I am prepared for him to be smarter than me.
Mine was tested at an early age. When he was little it sounded like at times he was speaking gibberish but I understood him. Through testing they figured out what it was.
 

gangsterkathryn

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Mine was tested at an early age. When he was little it sounded like at times he was speaking gibberish but I understood him. Through testing they figured out what it was.
Exactly our same situation. They did all kinds of testing when we did the speech testing and even those people were like “you need to have him tested for gifted.” He was about 3 at the time. We’ve come a very long way since then with his speech. It’s crazy how smart they can be, but they struggle to speak.
 

Never_Rolled

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Exactly our same situation. They did all kinds of testing when we did the speech testing and even those people were like “you need to have him tested for gifted.” He was about 3 at the time. We’ve come a very long way since then with his speech. It’s crazy how smart they can be, but they struggle to speak.
His speech fixed itself 1st grade maybe even kindergarten. His mother and I had already split up by then. His voice changed a few months ago when he was 15. It's so weird having your kid have a high voice to suddenly have a DEEP voice.

I would also recommend your son get into music. Join the school band when he's older. Mine started on trombone never had a lesson, just learned in school. He taught himself clarinet but didn't play that in band. Switched to sax which I did take him for lessons. When he got to HS he played sax in marching season and oboe for concert season. He was good on sax not very good on oboe but it's really hard to play. He decided it took too much time from his studies plus he wasn't into as much so I let him quit but it was a good experience. My GF and I were band parent nerds. I am so glad we aren't doing that again too.
 

gangsterkathryn

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His speech fixed itself 1st grade maybe even kindergarten. His mother and I had already split up by then. His voice changed a few months ago when he was 15. It's so weird having your kid have a high voice to suddenly have a DEEP voice.

I would also recommend your son get into music. Join the school band when he's older. Mine started on trombone never had a lesson, just learned in school. He taught himself clarinet but didn't play that in band. Switched to sax which I did take him for lessons. When he got to HS he played sax in marching season and oboe for concert season. He was good on sax not very good on oboe but it's really hard to play. He decided it took too much time from his studies plus he wasn't into as much so I let him quit but it was a good experience. My GF and I were band parent nerds. I am so glad we aren't doing that again too.
I took clarinet in middle school, but not HS, despite the band teacher pushing me (I had music appreciation in ninth, and he was a clarinet player, I brought my mouth piece and reeds and got to play his high end stuff). Scott is not really interested in music. I did get him a guitar, but he doesn’t want lessons... I figured we will see how it goes. The big thing now is the BJJ, which I am working on since they said they’ll work on the cost. I will probably let him do the science clubs and stuff.
Is it bad that I am excited for something like mathletes? I know that’s dorky, but I just want him to never stop learning.
 

Never_Rolled

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I took clarinet in middle school, but not HS, despite the band teacher pushing me (I had music appreciation in ninth, and he was a clarinet player, I brought my mouth piece and reeds and got to play his high end stuff). Scott is not really interested in music. I did get him a guitar, but he doesn’t want lessons... I figured we will see how it goes. The big thing now is the BJJ, which I am working on since they said they’ll work on the cost. I will probably let him do the science clubs and stuff.
Is it bad that I am excited for something like mathletes? I know that’s dorky, but I just want him to never stop learning.
The academics now will place him in better places for the future. If he wants to do it not dorky at all. Smart people have greater opportunity in life.