yeah I feel you. That whole system is set up to fail average folks like us. I had to raid my 401k and various other shit to get out of legal shit I got myself into by being a dumbass for a few years.
Jon Jones receives no jail time in plea deal
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I've never heard any rumors of DC and adultery.
Plus, even if its true, it wouldn't be surprising for a pro athlete to be involved in something like that. It pretty much comes with the territory (not that I agree with it because I don't)
That's why I didn't list that under the problem I have with Jones.
The coke and random chicks that he gets with doesn't bother me. It evidently doesn't bother his wife either so I have no problem with it.
Jones ain't married. Too me it's fascinating learning what morals or core values people overlook and what they don't. If it was an individual thing based on personal experience I could dig it, but it seems to be a majority thing with fans. I can't quite figure it out with my pea brain yet.
Adultery= don't condone it but it's not a big deal, lots of athletes cheat. Not a character breaker. (I don't know if it was a one time attempt or even a real attempt at all, there was just a story about his behavior at the fan expo one year when he was still with Strikeforce or just came from SF. A friend told me about the Creep Life.)
Jailbird= people say Gus was young, he didn't beat up the stranger woman just the stranger guy. Served his time and doesn't wanna talk about it anymore. A ok with fans and media.
Illegitimate children= Nobody seems to think this is a flaw at all, it's never addressed even when there are multiple baby mamas.
DUI with prop damage (his)= hoorrrrrible.
Doing coke on your personal time= my goodness that man is the worst!
Fleeing scene with minor injuries and prop damage= what an unforgivable act. He should go to jail for years!
Personally, I find the children out of wedlock with multiple partners despicable and assaulting innocent, unsuspecting people/gang activity to be one of the lowest acts. Pure trash.
i agree the civil trial will more than likely be a big amount and pretty much a guaranteed pay out, but we know Uncle dana will make sure its paid.
Can you elaborate on the Gus story? First time I've heard it.
I personally don't give a fuck about the property damage aspect, but hitting someone and bailing is a pretty shitty thing to do. Him calling an ambulance could've been the difference between a person living and dying. Same with the DUI. He hit a telephone pole with his car, who cares. Would you feel the same way if it was a kid on a bicycle?
Gus used to beat up random people in front of their girls when young. He isn't the picture perfect guy to be champion.
I'd feel different if it was any innocent living being that was seriously harmed in any accident, dui or no. As to calling the ambulance, it wasn't just the pregnant driver and Jones, there was that third car occupied by an off duty police officer. If Jones' called rather than the other parties what difference in the outcome? Jones is not medically trained to be able to provide immediate help to any victims. His leaving the scene had no effect at all on the health of the other parties.
Playing the 'what if' game is pointless.
Its not like he knew that the 3rd car was occupied by a off duty cop.
If I ran into a women, the least I would do is call 911.
I mean, that's common sense right? Who wouldn't do that?
I wouldn't be able to live with myself if I left an injured person on the road and sprinted away.
It's hardly a 'what if' game.The laws are written in an attempt to prevent the scenarios I'm describing. He didn't know if the person he hit was okay, he didn't know there was someone else there to help. He hit someone and bailed, plain and simple, and that's a dog shit move. The idea that no one was seriously hurt so it's not a big deal to stick around to fulfill your legal and ethical obligations is crazy to me.
From BJpenn.com
“This is the only interview I’m doing about it here. I feel like I want my (story?) said. I want to be able to leave it and look ahead. This happened when I was a teenager, today I am a completely different person.
As a young man, I was always very much energy. And I had no real target. Thus, I had great parents, great family, but I didn’t know where I would go with all that energy.
I can’t defend it in any way. It is something that I am ashamed of. It was … There were some circumstances when I grew up. There was a lot of groupings and there were fights on the town. It went on for a couple of years ago, I moved from there. From Arboga to Gothenburg. To get away from all that. I was young, I was stupid”
Time in prison? It was hard. I was young, I was stupid. I left a safe home for a precarious existence.
When I started with [MMA] (it) turned everything (around). It was really a wow experience. It was something special. I liked the special atmosphere at the Club, among the guys. The instructors were very much for discipline and structure, and I’ve had problems with it before. Now I got it there. And it was in connection with an interest that I had.
I realized pretty quickly that this was something I wanted to do, and that what I been doing in the past were not sustainable.
It was a liberation. From having gone around with a destructive behavior to that. “Wow, I’m free!”. A (ton) lifted from my shoulders.
And not only that, I saw how my parents lit up, my siblings, my grandmother. People who love one. The who has always been there and supported me, even during the tough times. Now they saw that I had got structure. I came home with a smile on his face. I had found a calling in life.”
He admits it was stupid, something he's ashamed of it and can't defend it. It happened as a teenager and he served his time and seems to be on a much better path now so I have no problem with him at all in regards to his path. We all make mistakes in our younger years, some worse than other and it seems Gus has learned the hard way.
Jon comes across as rather hypocritical on occasion. He comes from a religious family, has bible verse tattoo, tweets out lots about Jesus/God but doesn't seem to follow this path himself. No need to list his shit as its well known but considering HWs actively still working through these thing as a man in his late 20s I find it harder to look at him as somebody I'd encourage my kids to look up to. (Fucking hate the interview where he seemed proud to rat out weed smokers, also the "you'll never catch me getting a DUI..." thing is classic)
I've never heard of DC cheating so I can't comment on that. I do find him the best role model out of the three as a whole because I find him very well spoken on camera, very hard worker, seems like a family guy with serious hard luck growing up and the loss of his little girl. He's the only one of the three I've met personally and he was more than happy to do pictures and signings and all that stuff.
Just my $0.02 on how I view them on a personal note. Either way I'll never miss any of their fights as they are all so good in different ways with Jon leading them pack by a good margin still IMO. I think Gus and DC can keep on doing what their doing and be just fine where as I feel Jon needs to pick a "side" and stick to it to not have his personal life over shadow his amazing fighting career.
“This is the only interview I’m doing about it here. I feel like I want my (story?) said. I want to be able to leave it and look ahead. This happened when I was a teenager, today I am a completely different person.
As a young man, I was always very much energy. And I had no real target. Thus, I had great parents, great family, but I didn’t know where I would go with all that energy.
I can’t defend it in any way. It is something that I am ashamed of. It was … There were some circumstances when I grew up. There was a lot of groupings and there were fights on the town. It went on for a couple of years ago, I moved from there. From Arboga to Gothenburg. To get away from all that. I was young, I was stupid”
Time in prison? It was hard. I was young, I was stupid. I left a safe home for a precarious existence.
When I started with [MMA] (it) turned everything (around). It was really a wow experience. It was something special. I liked the special atmosphere at the Club, among the guys. The instructors were very much for discipline and structure, and I’ve had problems with it before. Now I got it there. And it was in connection with an interest that I had.
I realized pretty quickly that this was something I wanted to do, and that what I been doing in the past were not sustainable.
It was a liberation. From having gone around with a destructive behavior to that. “Wow, I’m free!”. A (ton) lifted from my shoulders.
And not only that, I saw how my parents lit up, my siblings, my grandmother. People who love one. The who has always been there and supported me, even during the tough times. Now they saw that I had got structure. I came home with a smile on his face. I had found a calling in life.”
He admits it was stupid, something he's ashamed of it and can't defend it. It happened as a teenager and he served his time and seems to be on a much better path now so I have no problem with him at all in regards to his path. We all make mistakes in our younger years, some worse than other and it seems Gus has learned the hard way.
Jon comes across as rather hypocritical on occasion. He comes from a religious family, has bible verse tattoo, tweets out lots about Jesus/God but doesn't seem to follow this path himself. No need to list his shit as its well known but considering HWs actively still working through these thing as a man in his late 20s I find it harder to look at him as somebody I'd encourage my kids to look up to. (Fucking hate the interview where he seemed proud to rat out weed smokers, also the "you'll never catch me getting a DUI..." thing is classic)
I've never heard of DC cheating so I can't comment on that. I do find him the best role model out of the three as a whole because I find him very well spoken on camera, very hard worker, seems like a family guy with serious hard luck growing up and the loss of his little girl. He's the only one of the three I've met personally and he was more than happy to do pictures and signings and all that stuff.
Just my $0.02 on how I view them on a personal note. Either way I'll never miss any of their fights as they are all so good in different ways with Jon leading them pack by a good margin still IMO. I think Gus and DC can keep on doing what their doing and be just fine where as I feel Jon needs to pick a "side" and stick to it to not have his personal life over shadow his amazing fighting career.
Hey, just a random question. How many hours in a typical month do you spend fist pumping?
how do you know what he saw? he fled, stopped, jogged back for his loot, fled again. He's fast but not Flash Gordon. The off duty cop reported that he (the cop) got out of the car and watched Jon leave then went over to the other vehicle. So when Jones came back there was activity at the scene and again no medical training to assist and help was called. This is in a city not some desert 100 miles away from help lol.
Regardless, the facts are what they are and the deal is done. Morally, for sure count not assisting against him, but I'm not going to think worse because what could have happened instead of what actually happened.
No respectable fighter would come out to Canadian music.
I hate this guy. I hate people that get DUI's. I wish the worst pain imaginable on those who hurt people while the are DUI'ing. I hope this woman and her family take his ass to the cleaners. He should suffer in some way EVERYDAY until she is 100% the same as the moment before he hit her. He's a fucking coward for running from the screen that day. A FUCKING COWARD. Take away his talent and he's a guy on his way to his third strike. The day he kills someone because he's high or drunk again, I hope they throw away the key and empty his entire bank account. He got in less trouble than Diaz who did a drug legal in his own state.
EDIT: I respect that you fell passionately about the subject & agree with the premise. Far too many innocent lives are taken by impaired drivers every day, and the next one could be someone any of us know & love. But with that said, we can't allow fighter bashing here, regardless of personal opinions. I would kindly ask that you refrain from it in the future. Thank you sir.
- Wild
EDIT: I respect that you fell passionately about the subject & agree with the premise. Far too many innocent lives are taken by impaired drivers every day, and the next one could be someone any of us know & love. But with that said, we can't allow fighter bashing here, regardless of personal opinions. I would kindly ask that you refrain from it in the future. Thank you sir.
- Wild
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Hes lucky that woman is ok or this could have gone the other way.
Shady move of him not calling the cops to help the injured. Its possible the other people in the accident didn't have a cell or it with them. Those few minutes could have been the difference between life and death.
He just cared about himself getting out of the scene so he didn't get popped for coke DUI. Not really the christian thing to do like he professes.
Shady move of him not calling the cops to help the injured. Its possible the other people in the accident didn't have a cell or it with them. Those few minutes could have been the difference between life and death.
He just cared about himself getting out of the scene so he didn't get popped for coke DUI. Not really the christian thing to do like he professes.